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2018-9-12 | 2018-9-14

mod6: !!withdraw 0.73892662 14GZnTRpRZWZNxJ9vHFJeGMrTGS4uCVN8v
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/RlI9h/?raw=true
mod6: !!v 04DA37A4866F347D1FC74AAF9924420CA9CA55267C7FFC2A3DB3E9C9C3F069AD
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/eQcLy/?raw=true
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-12#1849988 << nuke at will, Admiral.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-12 15:34 asciilifeform: diana_coman, mod6 : plz say when ok to zero the retired drives ( dun have to be immediate, but it takes a day or so and would like to get'em mailed to my vivisection table )
mod6: mircea_popescu: Sounds great!
mod6: TMSR~ : Update on the Pizarro report for August. I have completed the Liabilities table after some discussion with ben_vulpes, and it is currently in a final-draft form. Upon approval of this draft, we will post it to the pizarroisp.net site.
mod6: Thank you for your patience.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, http://trilema.com/2016/mr-right/ is pretty transparently the remake of http://trilema.com/2013/true-romance-tarantino-cut/
mircea_popescu: man has the "viewing public" decayed intellectually in the intervening coupla decades.
mircea_popescu: the us went from being populated by a buncha 19yos to being populated by a buncha 9yos.
mod6: I'm interested to see if his manson family movie is going to be a steaming pile of dung, or not.
mod6: "Once Upon a Time In Hollywood"; I think the smart money is on the latter.
mod6: *ahem*
mod6: former
mod6: we'll see I guess 'eh
mod6: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/qSPwN/?raw=true << draft of the manifest.txt for TRB. mircea_popescu asciilifeform ben_vulpes trinque et. al. plz to review and let me know if any thing needs changing.
mod6: (the first line has a place holder in there for the block height when I get to actually making another excise_hash_truncation vpatch)
ben_vulpes: why that particular block height for all the other entries, mod6 ?
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-12#1849988 -> go ahead
a111: Logged on 2018-09-12 15:34 asciilifeform: diana_coman, mod6 : plz say when ok to zero the retired drives ( dun have to be immediate, but it takes a day or so and would like to get'em mailed to my vivisection table )
mircea_popescu: http://archive.is/5PxAY#selection-329.0-337.12 (31 downloads, 17 Apr 2016) vs 42 downloads today (meanwhile gutenberg managed to fuck the archiving, hence http://archive.is/AjBWd ).
mircea_popescu: this means that out of the "millions" of "true faifs" ustards and the "many" fans of c. s. lewis, exactly http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-12#1849749 ie 0.0% actually read the ur-example of this whole conscience-biographic genre.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-12 00:08 mircea_popescu: and in other "the web has failed, utterly" lulz : trilema's "Links from an external page (other web sites except search engines)" managed for the first time in history an epic 0.0% this month.
mircea_popescu: because who the fuck needs tradition when private interpretation of self-identified experience is justasgood, amirite. and besides, reading is hard. not to mention a special snowflake runs the risk of discovering some unflattering things, reading.
mircea_popescu: so there sits newman, unread. meanwhile "awareness" is all rose an' teh "kiriarchy" is well fought and whatnot the fuck else. tulpas!
mircea_popescu: i suppose discussing why he omitted the enim in "Adhuc enim modicum aliquantulum, qui venturus est, veniet, et non tardabit." is not useful in this context.
mircea_popescu: anyway, "have thus a little patience, for he on the road is coming, and won't delay."
deedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2018/09/13/atunci-ca-si-acum-ca-ntotdeauna/ << Ossasepia - Atunci ca si acum ca-ntotdeauna
diana_coman: honestly by now I think it's 0% *did* anything, whatever it is; talking yes, doing no as per old reference ^
mircea_popescu: if talkin's like breathin' they'll do that and if not they'll just breathe.
mircea_popescu: aaahahaha
mircea_popescu: http://ossasepia.com/2018/09/13/atunci-ca-si-acum-ca-ntotdeauna/ << 1944 newspaper clipping, announcing one egg costing 80lei (a howeve rmany million% increase over pre war years -- romania had a nice famine just like everyone else in europe post ww2). the byline however, is "this because there's too much clucking about and too little work being done"
mircea_popescu: diana_coman welcome back to online for your blog btw!
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, thanks!
mircea_popescu: diana_coman amusingly, the latest "stabilization" or we was 60 years later huh. how much were eggs cca 2004, before the 1:10`000 conversion ? 5k or so, 10k for easter ?
diana_coman: I'd say more like 3k but I'm not all that sure on it
mircea_popescu: 80 smokes nervously in corner.
diana_coman: eggs were also one of the things I almost never needed to buy in Ro at that time
mircea_popescu: in any case, 80 is not even a hundred, what thousands we speak of.
mircea_popescu: 2064, 1mn lei to the egg!
diana_coman: perhaps even earlier; from what I understand that's the desired direction anyway, "everyone a millionaire", no?
mircea_popescu: what consumer has come to expect, consumer will come to get!
mircea_popescu: people of 2064 watching "who wants to be a millionaire", this antique show where people go to be insulted for being so fucking poor.
mod6: ben_vulpes: All of the previously created vpatches are coming into the manifest at the same time. This simply denotes that it was all created at one time.
mod6: Well, s/all created/placed into the manifest/
asciilifeform: !Q later tell BingoBoingo plz lemme know result of search for http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-12#1849871 locally ( i expect -- none ) and i'ma order'em
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-12 00:47 a111: Logged on 2018-09-11 20:00 asciilifeform: currently i am looking at replacement https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-BAR-Plus-128GB-MUF-128BE4/dp/B07BPG9YX9 , which is a good ~4cm iron pig
asciilifeform: diana_coman, mod6 : ty. will zero the olds.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-13#1850134 << was this eggs per se -- or currency meltdown ( ... or both? ) ?
a111: Logged on 2018-09-13 11:28 deedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2018/09/13/atunci-ca-si-acum-ca-ntotdeauna/ << Ossasepia - Atunci ca si acum ca-ntotdeauna
asciilifeform: !Q later tell BingoBoingo plz also say whether you were able to source the 5v blower. if not -- i'ma order one of'em also.
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathen 'intellectual property'(tm) lulz >> https://archive.is/ROUt9
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The samsung sticks have not been found. The only little heatsinks I found were asking an incredibly extortionate price. 5v blower has yet to be found. Seeing a lot of 12v's But I haven't yet completed the walk to every local store.
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: Sent 40 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> plz lemme know result of search for http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-12#1849871 locally ( i expect -- none ) and i'ma order'em
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: Sent 35 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> plz also say whether you were able to source the 5v blower. if not -- i'ma order one of'em also.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> people of 2064 watching "who wants to be a millionaire", this antique show where people go to be insulted for being so fucking poor. << It'll happen before then. In 1980's and 1990's movies the plot driving stakes are normally in the thousands of dollars.
BingoBoingo: And then there were the ancient gameshows watched keeping grandpa company where the elusive stretch prize was 64,000 and cool cars were the attainable prizes hit before that.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: '$64k question', famous. ( also remembered as the 1st and afaik last 'omfg it's rigged!' scandal, back when such a thing could possibly surprise anybody )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: have you looked in same catalog where you got the uart ? ( for either )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-13#1850164 << there is 1 other variant, where 'plot stakes numbering in thousands' come ~back~, in the form of 'thousand btc'
a111: Logged on 2018-09-13 15:08 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> people of 2064 watching "who wants to be a millionaire", this antique show where people go to be insulted for being so fucking poor. << It'll happen before then. In 1980's and 1990's movies the plot driving stakes are normally in the thousands of dollars.
asciilifeform: sorta like in ru nobody gives half a shit about 'millionaire' unless he is specifically 'dollar millionaire'
asciilifeform: ( if you can afford a toyota, you are a 'ruble millionaire' even nao )
asciilifeform: meanwhile in today's mircea_popescu-oldies lotto, http://trilema.com/2015/lets-address-some-of-the-more-common-pseudo-arguments-raised-by-the-very-stupid-people-that-like-the-gavin-scamcoin-proposal
asciilifeform wonders, whether the gavin derp is still on the stage, or fully retired nao. i dun follow heathendom closely enuff to know
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The particular vendor does not have fans. Other listing are "via Ebay" (i.e. unassisted import process) or feature 5v in the headline and 12v in the photo or specs
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: aite, unless there's more shops you want to look in ( or can get hold of a 12v brick and solder ) i'ma include blower in the order
asciilifeform: tho i was hoping to get one blowing asap, to prolong the life of the installed sadsamsungs
asciilifeform: considering that we've exhausted the spares
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm moar than a little bit surprised that you found no usb-powered fans, they are pestilentially common even in souvenir shops over here
asciilifeform: and would entirely suffice for the purpose
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Thank you for reminding me those eist
asciilifeform: they not only exist, but will work immediately, with 0 solder
asciilifeform: supposing you can locate one
BingoBoingo: There's a bunch of these, browsing through now https://listado.mercadolibre.com.uy/ventilador-usb#D[A:ventilador-usb]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: see if you can find one similar to https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.uy/MLU-455183149-arctic-breeze-ventilador-de-escritorio-usb-con-cuello-f-_JM but that aint an 'import, takes 9 days'
asciilifeform: even sumthing like https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.uy/MLU-452816395-mini-usb-portatil-flexible-mini-refrigeracion-ventilador-enf-_JM would suffice
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: let's take this thread to #p, the #t log readers do not need to sift through the orcolade
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it was both -- constantly during the war foodstuffs were eaten, but less and less produced, thus dwindling their supply and increasing their rarity ; while pantsuit "currency" substitutes on paper were not eaten (nor accepted), but more and more produced, thus increasing their supply and destroying their only form of value.
diana_coman: ahahha mircea_popescu that new header pic
mircea_popescu: CHTULHUHUHUHuuuu!
diana_coman: if one's sushi...
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-13#1850166 << was huger and more recent "is wrestling tv show or sportive competition" debate. resolved, amusingly enough, through a doctrinal "diune essence", very much exactly like the "god is also son and passerine bird, same person" except "it's both staged and not staged"
a111: Logged on 2018-09-13 15:40 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: '$64k question', famous. ( also remembered as the 1st and afaik last 'omfg it's rigged!' scandal, back when such a thing could possibly surprise anybody )
mircea_popescu: as a result, a few people believe in the trinity, and a whole lot of truckers believe in the duality.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what is sovok(tm)(r) is not this very duality.
mircea_popescu: justabout.
asciilifeform: as per http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-14#503958 .
a111: Logged on 2014-02-14 17:28 mircea_popescu: little girl in last row starts crying her pioneer shirt off
mircea_popescu: "cultural marxism", right ? vince mcmahon, right up there, and EXACTLY AS MUCH as all the other zigglers, marxes, billy mays, engleses and whatnots of ye olde stupiditarian tradition.
asciilifeform: who's mcmahon
mircea_popescu: the pantsuited hilarity of ~this~ particular sect of dumbos.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> who's mcmahon << Trump's friend the Wildlife Federation guy
mircea_popescu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_McMahon
asciilifeform: a
asciilifeform not aficionado
mircea_popescu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_J._McMahon << in fairness, father prolly more the relevant figure. different quimby.
mircea_popescu: "It is very difficult duly to delineate a bore in a narrative, for the very reason that he is a bore. A tale must aim at condensation, but a bore acts in solution. It is only on the long-run that he is ascertained. Then, indeed, he is felt; he is oppressive; like the sirocco, which the native detects at once, while a foreigner is often at fault. Tenet occiditque. Did you hear him make but one speech, perhaps you would say he
mircea_popescu: was a pleasant, well-informed man; but when he never comes to an end, or has one and the same prose every time you meet him, or keeps you standing till you are fit to sink, or holds you fast when you wish to keep an engagement, or hinders you listening to important conversation,-- then there is no mistake, the truth bursts on you, apparent diræ facies, you are in the clutches of a bore. You may yield, or you may flee; you ca
mircea_popescu: nnot conquer. Hence it is clear that a bore cannot be represented in a story, or the story would be the bore as much as he. The reader, then, must believe this upright Mr. Bateman to be what otherwise he might not discover, and thank us for our consideration in not proving as well as asserting it."
mircea_popescu: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/24574/24574-h/24574-h.htm << newman very much worth the read, as always.
mircea_popescu: the principal problem of literature, of course, is that it's always better to show than to tell.
mircea_popescu: always ? well no, not ALWAYS. there's one exception, says tongue in cheek the man one can rely to give a fair account and sufficient treatment to exceptions.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: reminds me of erry (?) kiddo's eventual q, 'why in these fairy tales nobody ever has to take a shit'
mircea_popescu: (and the man one can't rely on to that is very much the very substance of the moron ; hence http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-05#480525 )
a111: Logged on 2014-02-05 01:02 mircea_popescu: pankkake it's fascinating how they completely gloss over the part where one group (the scammers behind it) stole the resources of the rest of the people involved (every idiot that bought some, mined some, or pumped it up until two days ago)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that can be well depicted (though it'd be a slightly more pornographic fairytale than commonly seen)
asciilifeform: sure, can
mircea_popescu: well, the problem here is CANT.
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform can see it.
asciilifeform: boredom is the 1 thing nobody wants, dun even have the equiv of the scatofetishist there.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the http://trilema.com/2018/surprised-by-joy-the-shape-of-my-early-life-adnotated/ < -- > http://trilema.com/2017/zuleika-dobson-or-an-proper-love-story/ < -- > Loss and Gain (linked above) relationship should be i believe readily obvious
mircea_popescu: they're all oxford tales of found faith, yes.
asciilifeform: i'll add however that the strugatskis (imho) pulled it off -- in 'snail on a hill', they had critters who think and speak in circles, and it was drawn lightly enuff so that it did not entirely permeate the yarn with snore
mircea_popescu: that i'm the only one to have ever written a decent FEMALE version... well...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it draws the good writer like flame draws moths, this. what all is finnigan's wake than the attempt ? and the very aptly named "hunting for lost time"
mircea_popescu: finne* even
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but anyway, in the very success is the seed of failure : in that they weren't all that boring they weren't, after all, true bores. a true bore can drive women to murder, just as well as the http://trilema.com/2016/the-pedoepiphany/ can.
asciilifeform: reader wants 'true bore' like he wants actual baccilae in the pages of story about plague.
mircea_popescu: quite.
mircea_popescu: i should have thought of that! think alfie, a future world wherein all thart's left is nostalgia for the past. a past which is no longer accessible, except in the limited sense, that victorian novels about prim sad ladies have pages steeped in koch solution ; whereas italian fiction of the plague will gladly give you it.
asciilifeform: 'smellovision'
mircea_popescu: so the reader can relive THIS much of the past, in an age when every other thing's as scarce as chairs in turn of the century china.
mircea_popescu: "no fountains and no english lawns -- at least i cough just like my heroine..."
asciilifeform: !#s stand on zanzibar
a111: 14 results for "stand on zanzibar", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=stand%20on%20zanzibar
asciilifeform: ^ where 'burning at the stake', guillotine, etc. were made available as ~paid~ service, for folx 'hungry for authentic'
mircea_popescu: aha!
mircea_popescu: the point here'd be not the death, but the rekindling of a loss.
asciilifeform: 'can die of boredom like errybody else, or hey why not an auto de fe'
mircea_popescu: actually, the us has a direct implementation of the idea -- can take a free 2 week vacation in florida on premises of people who aim to sell you real estate.
mircea_popescu: or at least, could. not sure if it even still exists.
asciilifeform not encountered this
asciilifeform: maybe only pitched to highrollers
mircea_popescu: original meaning of "timeshare".
mircea_popescu: 1980s item.
asciilifeform: aa see asciilifeform was in happy orc childhood in 80s, so did not see this.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://www.episodelist.com/episodes/married-with-children/season-6/my-dinner-with-anthrax/25825 << extended network points out item was even reflected in popular culture.
asciilifeform unsurprised
BingoBoingo: The time share thing still exists.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: yes but with freebies ?
BingoBoingo: Extent of the freebies less certain. Before I left there were still "free dinner for listening" ads in the local ad rag
mod6: tested my fg on my rk, looks good
asciilifeform: yay
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/09/jizz-mopper-josh-garza-to-mop-prison-jizz-for-21-months-after-pleading-out-to-wire-fraud-over-paycoin-drama/ << Qntra - Jizz Mopper Josh Garza To Mop Prison Jizz For 21 Months After Pleading Out To Wire Fraud Over "Paycoin" Drama
BingoBoingo: ^ An early Qntra/ProtoQntra case closes
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i guess 1 usg.rubber only holds so-much jizz, handler finally slipped on a new one and threw garza into the bin
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wouldja happen to have a link to where the sentence ?
BingoBoingo: Well he blew up spectacularly in early 2015
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc d00d targeted the very bottom seg of the bell curve from day 1
asciilifeform: so 'blow up' is not fully descriptive imho
BingoBoingo: True, I'll put "blog a GAW jizz mopping" retrospective in the hopper as medium priority
asciilifeform: gotta wonder, what precisely caps the lifespam of a garza-style op. my guess is that it was never +ev at any point, and d00d simply ran out of his usg-allotted 'capital' to pay the shills etc
asciilifeform: *lifespan, but let's leave the typo in for effect!1
asciilifeform: y'know, sorta like how the gavin-foundation ran through.
asciilifeform: iirc while pirate et al ran pyramids, garza ran the btc equiv of those oldtime scamolas where you mix magic snake oil into yer petrol tank
asciilifeform: btw BingoBoingo recall when the butterfly labs thing likewise came to an end, similarly
asciilifeform: it's rather like how when they shot lavrentiy beria -- pile the crimes onto 1 d00d, then flush him, and it's as if the enablers 'never happened'
asciilifeform wonders how many of the still-operating garzas are aware of their ultimate purpose in the scheme
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-13#1850262 << wasn't this the one with the passible hotwife ?
a111: Logged on 2018-09-13 22:07 asciilifeform: gotta wonder, what precisely caps the lifespam of a garza-style op. my guess is that it was never +ev at any point, and d00d simply ran out of his usg-allotted 'capital' to pay the shills etc
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: He had the passably hot wife
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I think the GAW thing intentionally aimed still lower
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dungetit, what's lower than 'it's a miner^H^H^Hcloud^H^Hpetroladditive^H^Hdentists-don't-want-you-to-know' ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: BFL wasn't cloud yet
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: speaking of garza's 'hashlets' thing
BingoBoingo: GAW was always cloud where customer is promised they never touch any object
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: always? cuz i definitely recall 'any day nao you will see'em in lolmart shelves'
asciilifeform: started out as quasi-physical totem of some kind
BingoBoingo: Walmart was their altcoin
BingoBoingo: These details in their marketing print blurred together for their customers too
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i for one can't think of who exactly lies in bellcurve below folx who will sign up for 'pay now, see wtf it is later'
BingoBoingo: Largely soulless automatons
BingoBoingo: There are now fans lined up pulling air over the Rockchips
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: didja remember to take photo ?
BingoBoingo: I did not take photo, I can run back and grab one
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dun have to be right now, can go in the morning. and when you do, also plz retrieve the 2 retired usb stix from dulap, they've been zero'd
asciilifeform: ( interestingly -- wrote all blox without even 1 eggog )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: but if you're feeling energetic, why not go nao.
asciilifeform bbl,meat

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