BingoBoingo: <Mocky> i suppose idiocy not baked into hindbrain << What you described happening to you was light coming on in a dark place letting you see. It is an absence phenonmenon. Nothing inherently bad.
BingoBoingo: The redditards have a pathology. A presence of something anti-useful
asciilifeform: washing aint fine culinary art, either, but picture cook who does not wash instruments.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 23:54 danielpbarron: they have some app exibitors can use to promote where they'll be and what they are serving (i reserved a vendor campsite specifically for the purpose of provoking conversation about the Bible) -- i also mention in my "profile" that i'm a lord in the most serene republic of Bitcoin, which mysteriously gets removed. I add it again, removed again. They apparently don't mind a religious "cult" but not
mircea_popescu: ok, i'm skipping the rest of this swiftgeek barf, it's indigestible.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform, unless you're looking for confused teeny cunt, you never miss much by missing the congregations of confused teeny cunt. << And for that alf needs to do Uruguay delivery runs during the summer.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 21:40 asciilifeform: in one ear and out the other, apparently .
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1823026 << this sort of statement would be so much more useful/important/noteworthy/actually existent if it came in the form of "i'm the guy from $X, long term so and so". where $X doesn't have to be a "our words are backed by nuclear weapons" state. can even be a blog. a dogshed. SOMETHING. but something specifically and identifiably existent.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 20:42 hl`: I'm a longtime owner-control advocate.
danielpbarron: asciilifeform, you certainly missed 0. it was only fun for me for as long as there were easy drugs and poker, and now going forward, because they will let me openly preach along side Darwin Fish
mircea_popescu: because otherwise, really, the thing you "identify as" at parties bears no meaning and no interest, for us as for the chicks that don't come with you to your records collection.
asciilifeform: i was thinking also, 'advocate' where, in local bierhaus ?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, it's mostly a medieval conceit. had to display it as something. you ever saw the dog-like elephant i linked once ?
BingoBoingo: <danielpbarron> nontheless, it would offend my brothers and sisters to do such a thing << Come to Uruguay. Live here six months. Hire girls you would have though good looking when you arrived, but because of their deep cultural failings you now view as well dressed more fuckable goats.
BingoBoingo: I suspect the level of human dysfunction we are encountering is different. Thankfully my problem is alleviated by saner girls importing themselves here from Northern South America because "land of opportunity"
BingoBoingo: And if that well ever went dry here, going full Pashtun is always an option
BingoBoingo: Sleep in the hills with blanket, kalash, and a local goat-girl
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1823317 << the tiny furry bastard. has a whole greeting protocol, consistent vocalizations, says his name by way of butthole display. worlds beyond what these derps consider communication when they arrive.
mircea_popescu: Mocky, pashtun is this word for tribesmen inhabiting the place empires go to die (afghanistan)
BingoBoingo: It however is impossible to go "full Charrúa" because they Uruguayos of all people genocided them under General Fructuoso Rivera before mass immigration of Italian trashpeople ruined Cisplatine culture
a111: Logged on 2016-12-29 18:40 asciilifeform: not everybody wants to be involved with mega-empires, on the giving or on the receiving end. in that light, the pashtun mountains are every bit a 'high-tech' deterrent as a SAM battery.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 22:32 asciilifeform: it'd be one thing if, say, google dev showed up and 'yes i'ma pgp to mircea_popescu the magic key', or even 'here's the schem'. but nooo, instead they come to 'explain' to us how 'tpm can be used to benefit you' .
asciilifeform: sooo apparently we want to pull ~up~ pin B4, which is 'pin 10 of port 0' , wherever the fuck that physically is.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 22:58 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i still find it lulzy how google apparently banked on nobody outside of their heathen pit getting hold of the fucking debug hose.
mircea_popescu: there's enough material here to make 15 usg."tech" "task forces".
mircea_popescu: most of the extant ones consist of a subunitary mancount.
asciilifeform: in disappointing noose, no soft zap -- include/tpm_vendor_cmds.h: VENDOR_CC_RESET_FACTORY = 38 cmd dunwork, result is extension_route_command: handler 22 not found , they closed the hole ( detain in https://archive.li/pEWsr )
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 17:18 weevlos: trinque: we are a media publication. our power and capital comes from the number of visitors we have to the site. we aim to transform through culture. if normal people cannot visit our site we are not accomplishing our goal
mircea_popescu: nah, the problem is that it consists of amstan orcs by mass. they're so enamoured with what the mud-toed grandmother back in rural orcistan thinks about "grandson works at google", they'll defect after the anal rape, maybe.
asciilifeform: btw on reread of the sores, raising the b4 pin is not expected to do anything productive, it merely sets the port config to the same default state the three 0 strapping pins already set it to in my box
mircea_popescu: you realise there's still idiots in rural kuban / albania / we keeping in ancient closets receipts from the local MMMs ?
mircea_popescu: "what is mgm, with a patch on the eye on the corner begging for nickles ? they repackage free shit idiots gave them in the hopes of '''making name for selves''' and pretend like they;re in business"
mircea_popescu: that's 100% what the shitstack is ; and i bet you amstan for instance is in shock over there in his silent dounce corner, "omfg, these people are impressed ~negatively~ with my political committments ?!?!?! they despisew me ?!!??! how could this be omfg"
asciilifeform: i doubt that he has any political thought process at all
mircea_popescu: phf, linguistics and phonetics is a major solvent for post-medieval mysteries. in some cases even earlier. a lot hinges on what kind of attic or aeolian or whatever other obscure way to say o and u someone employed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: loox like some sort of nonsense with 'smart pointers' ?
mircea_popescu: also, pfalz is not per se an area in germany ; it's a bunch of areas. originally [holders of] palatine lands elected the emperor, so it's really akin to saying portland-tmsr and seattle-tmsr. tmsr isn't a plage, it's a designation.
asciilifeform: the only reason it did not spread even farther outside of microshit (yes, the epicenter, despite not being originator) is that cpp projects tend to collapse under own weight too quickly to hit market
mircea_popescu: these idiots (project something or the other, i forget) spent ten years to reach this pinnacle ; and the whole time wondering why their ~server~ can't hold more than five or so people connected.
mircea_popescu: THEN they "moved on to unity". because "it's slicker visually".
mircea_popescu: alright. see the topic / read the logs / register a rsa key etc.
mircea_popescu: and in other "only in this country" lulz, i see a dark halfinch long form squrrying under the bottle washer behind the kitchen skin tap. so i'm all, you know if you've ever lived in new york, or buenos aires, or generally a large town, "fuck you, you little bitch" kill! kill! kill! mode.
mircea_popescu: turns out to have been... A FUCKING MOTH. nectar eating night guy.
mircea_popescu: goes right with the "about the size of a... scorpion, with a dangly apendage behind, looking like a ... scorpion tail" girl saw yest... FLYING.
mircea_popescu: oh, also, lest i forget : see alf ? you just don't do the upping correctly, is all.
asciilifeform: it is theoretically possible to turn rk3328-roc-cc ( as in pizarro pilot plant ) into a portable of a kind. one can get miniature hdmi lcd, etc. but there is no convenient way to handle power; it expects 5v, and has no provisions for interrogating battery level, one would have to build something , rather gnarly.
mircea_popescu: regulators aren't expensive. and nothing wrong with 5v from battery either.
mircea_popescu: heck, some actuallty even have gauge on themselves. i've seen this. it's not expensive or hard to make.
asciilifeform had some headaches in BingoBoingostan with x60 lappy (had to bring ~something~ to use for setup) , had to connect from a few places that had no mains, and battery was limiting factor. and x60 is heavy, occupied valuable launch capsule mass )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: display can be sourced, i actually have several 'naked' display here for experiments. the bulk of the headache is the kbd , chassis, power. any way you cut it, chassis becomes a multi-kg monster 'luggable'
mircea_popescu: something like the ipad retina, but in 45/35 rather than bs 15 x 12 cm they got.
asciilifeform: ( which , i get, dun matter worth a shit for mircea_popescu's applications. )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, there is such a thing as people with cars and pack animals.
asciilifeform: right, and most of the time asciilifeform goes in cars and pack animals also
asciilifeform: but in this particular case had to go in pay-per-kg launcher
mircea_popescu: and moreover, i think it is important to MAKE THIS A DIFFERENTIATION POINT.
cnomad: from reading around a few months ago, they use a similar IC that's used for smart cards, which implement a lot of hardening measures like dual rail logic, security meshes, and various other hardening measures
a111: Logged on 2018-06-12 18:48 asciilifeform considers idea of proclaiming a 1 btc prize for a working break of cr50 . any l1 folk interested in contributing to the prize chest , and/or overseeing the refereeing ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: good. nao all we need is a refereee
a111: Logged on 2018-06-12 19:32 cnomad: im a go-with-the-flow kinda guy. rep will naturally follow
asciilifeform: cnomad: it is quite conceivable that the artifact is airtight, and no one will collect the prize. however it is also conceivable that there is, e.g., buffer overflow somewhere in the mass of c crapola, and it can be rooted today, via the usb jack.
asciilifeform: refereeing will take some work. hence the call for a willing referee .
mircea_popescu: there wasn't a single noteworthy one in the whole bunch, yes ?
asciilifeform: ( and naturally contest would have finite time bound )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, think : paying for tits resulted, before your very eyes, in ever increasing levels of exam taking. yes ? you noticed this, yourself, i said nothing, you complained about it.
mircea_popescu: now you want to pay for cr-whatever. why ? do you expect it'll go any differently ? why ? and so on.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: occasionally folks do break things. presently they're stuck 1) publishing, and it gets patched within a day by enemy 2) the enemy's bounties, paid in printolade
mircea_popescu: "it doesn't cost me anything" is how filthy person ends up with bug infestation, "oh, the jam they eat cost me nothing".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, folks who can think are cordially invited to extract their head out of their ass, stop cohabiting with monkeys, join the republic.
mircea_popescu: if they can't do this, measured as "don't do this", a) the argument they were intelligent is tenuous and b) paying them is exacrtly thr wrong thing to do.
asciilifeform: well i wrote the article. observe what sort of folx came thus far.
mircea_popescu: ie, a) if indeed this guy exists that'd give tyou whatever for the whatever prize, and b) i know for certain that he wouldn;'t have otherwise, somehow then c) i'll send a gal over to tie him to a post, slice an inch of his abdomen, and slowly roll his inrtestine on a cat scratch pad.
asciilifeform: currently the thing is in a handful of boxes, but i suspect that it will spread.
asciilifeform: esp. if the derps begin to think that they've made an airtight trap.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't expect that the google monkeys with access to the key, will willingly spill it ( tho this cannot be ruled out. ) idea was, possibly to get the same folks who currently sweat over ipnoje etc , interested.
mircea_popescu: but if their brain dun work enough for them to get thjemselves interested on their own, then what's your btc gonna do ?
mircea_popescu: whereas their mothers were happy to appear in whistler's mother all decked in black.
mircea_popescu: but this is not what you ask. what you ask is, "what does the $x mn do". well ? what does it ?
mircea_popescu: you're not going to reproduce the former by the latter ; just like you're not going to lure my slavegirls away by promising to be "a good sensitive guy with a great sense of humor".
asciilifeform: however must point out, serious work does cost money; e.g. time on electron microscope, we saw what costs; and there is a population of folx who can make use of it, but can't steal enuff time on instruments, or , if they can, allocated it for something that actually pays the bills
mircea_popescu: howsoever indignant my stepping on their faces in the dungeon may make your tingly sense.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yes, and if zeptobars weren't fucked in the head, they'd have a !Z service here.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-13 20:14 zx2c4: i'd be wary of any 'deal' that's different from: 'i'm given money. you're given warm feelings of having helped the internet.'
asciilifeform: understand, a die photo would do me ~0 good re cr50.
mircea_popescu: where, of course, "the internet" is really just how he whitewashes satan himself for my benefit\.
mircea_popescu: cuz im supposed to be just as retarded as any other usg-produced neet.
asciilifeform: this aside, they ~are~ fuckedinthehead in the manner mircea_popescu describes. just, it would not make much diff for us to have'em, in this case.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i'm just saying, the thing you discuss, with "has costs", works a ~certain~ way. and if you recall how NOPENOPE NOPE!!! kanzure was wrt getting his inept bs in functional shape, you realise that they will NEVER do any work.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 16:39 a111: Logged on 2018-04-12 16:30 mircea_popescu: !!pay zx2c4 1
a111: Logged on 2017-10-11 20:46 mircea_popescu: !!withdraw 1 12taDFRdimNTHx1xoUkUZWj3nrE4js6LM6
mircea_popescu: nothing. there's not going to be any work encouragement through payment, because the inca has expertly stuffed this channel full of nonsense on both ends. "Free money" from one "nothing to buy for it" from the other, the zek has no use and no need and consequently no conception of money at all.
asciilifeform: let me guess, auditing www crapola to make the rent ?
mircea_popescu: my bet would be, he's working a shitty job in some shitty company and dreams of the day "things will happen".
mircea_popescu: meanwhile nothing's happening, and time goes by, and trinque in the end had a point, no door's open forever.
asciilifeform: maybe not best example, i have nfi whether d00d has the spark of life or not
mircea_popescu: and you know, like shinohai -- if you prod him he'll do some movements, like electrocuted, disembodied frog legs. and if you don't he'll sit. and then wonder why it didn't work out and why he's being so badly persecuted.
asciilifeform: all i got is historical examples, buying keys worked for kgb and gru
asciilifeform: nao if phf or other l1 is willing to referee, we can hold the game. ( imho asciilifeform does not fit for role of referee. )
mircea_popescu: and somehow, all these inept fucktards sit somewhere "online" on the world wide dweeb, and manage to not notice that "hey, there's some people somewhere , can burn 10s of ks of this shitty green crap just out of boredom. when's the last time our "respectable" "employer" ok'd a $100 expense account ?!?!?!"
asciilifeform: i'd start with giving the players , say , six weeks.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-12 19:44 cnomad: If someone popped this chip, I'd value it at _least_ 200k USD. we're talking about invasive analysis that requires equipment, weeks of non-stop work, and experience
mircea_popescu: let's not repeat the mistake that sunk america ; we don't even have an america to sink.
mircea_popescu: douchebag, "parasite" isn't a class. but yes, arachnids.
mircea_popescu: cnomad, outsourcing, rather than buying capital goods.
douchebag: A friend of mine is great w/ hardware hacking, reverse engineering, binary exploitation, firmware exploitation, ect.. He has a ton of equipment, if asciilifeform wants I could have him come in here.
BingoBoingo: <douchebag> It ended up being a spider bite << How sure are you about that? Prolly safest to tent the place and fumigate to be sure.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-12 19:51 cnomad: well the most likely non-firmware approach would be finding a way to glitch/fault it
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 15:46 asciilifeform: one interesting observation, is that the update mechanism lets you flash in arbitrary crapola into 'rw' section ( it simply won't jump to it if it doesn't pass rsa(sha256(payload)) ) . so theoretically could put a nop sled there, ending with jump into the magic half of unlock routine. and then expose the thing to beta/gamma, and perhaps in a few months it will Do The Right Thing
douchebag: My friend says he's going to research it some more. He said he can have a unit by Friday, he thinks it'll be interesting because it probably hasn't had as much attention given to it due to low market share
asciilifeform: phf: the way i'm thinking of doing it: i'ma write up and sign a statement describing the competition; you will create a special-occasion key, e.g. 'cr50contest', rate it e.g. +1 cr50 , and i will drop a coin into it.
asciilifeform: after that he can go and collect his $500k or whatever, if he can, from enemy.
phf: asciilifeform: i see, i'm sorry, but i don't think i can properly be called a referee under these conditions. i can do independent testing for you though, i.e. test against current c101pa, and against one that i purchase at a time you indicate.