a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 19:21 ben_vulpes: the active filtering i'd like to put in is either a regular set of eyeballs (BingoBoingo's, or the mentioned-tangentially sales guy to hire) on the "design" corners of these hosting forums to pm our ads for shells on the shared server to folks who are building websites directly
mircea_popescu: their only relation to their shared server is a box where they explain to you what they want done.
mircea_popescu: sorta premium-shared, catering to what most "non-technical" people actually want from a website.
mircea_popescu: i know a bunch of people tried this, some of which managed to bootstrap themselves into middle class existences (from humble orc nobodyhood) ; but plenty failing miserably.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 20:56 BingoBoingo: mod6: Well pizarro got billed for the dentist. The doctor is out of my pocket. Part of the idea is getting these things off of Pizarro's line and into my own.
mircea_popescu: i can see the point, too, "i am so many years old and not getting younger ; if i sit and twiddle my thumbs in this jungle rather than some other jungle it'd better not be just so i end up 40 something and asked "Кто..." and not have an answer"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815045 << the make food area incidentally is easy to misjudge. it'll make a world of difference, both in qol and what that qol costs, once you get a proper kitchen going. ideally with womanly help as i dunno you're that competent. have bread going every other day, have a pot of soup always, the good old strictures of european ie civilised life.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:16 ben_vulpes: sure, but i'm talking about quality of existence here. own place to shit, own food prep area, not having to constantly piss on preferred chairs. it buys security for effects, and calm of mind that i think BingoBoingo underestimates (unless he is a very different animal from what i imagine)
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:36 mod6: BingoBoingo: bud, you need your own place to hang your hat, you're a Lord of the Republic, not a random street orc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nfs ? they dun write html for you or anything of the kind, it's simply an ultraminimal hoster thing (somewhere between vps and plain unixhosting , hard to classify into 1 of the traditional categories)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815082 << i was able to find (after A LOT of expert searching, it is true) furnished apts conveniently located for all the girls ; didn't end up paying much of anything upfrtont either (they wanted a month's rent, i was paying quarterly anyway, so it sorta went away). gotta talk to "the people" (=dueno) though, "agencies" aren't so useful. but there's a 5% of the population that makes ends m
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:37 BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: help me enumerate these costs? A substantial guarentee upfront (3-6 months rent) and then furnishing the apartment.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 23:33 asciilifeform: aaalso about to do a primality walk, where (ditto from corner case) a prime p is known where m/p is a prime q but q was not registered.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 23:28 asciilifeform: achtung phuctor readers! about to remove 676 spurious factors ( they equal their moduli, and are factors of no others) from the db; these crept in in late 2016
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815103 << understand though that the only reason they're surprising is because they weren't handled either properly or in time. there's a lot of leeway in how surprising the sort of predictable surprises are, by being what's called "proactive"
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 22:46 mod6: So my willingness to keep putting money into this is contingent on whether or not we can even reach profitibility. Which we'll never get there if "raises" and other "surpises" keep coming ujp.
mircea_popescu: ie, don't discover that a guy who's there at your pleasure is sitting on arms all day long contemplating roaches climb the walls because ~i point it out~, don't be surprised by the attentand morale issues.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:28 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815092 << you didn't even give him a workorder yet (as you don't evne have a sales plan yet) and you want to add incentives to it ? kinda ass-backwards!
asciilifeform: mod6: lel, iirc mircea_popescu was in his 6+-piece, but i suspect that his is refrigerated, like cosmonaut's
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815181 << it occurs to me that my statmens re surprises are unwarrented. i had only remembered the 1BTC in feb of 19, i somehow entirely forgot the other 7500 a part. so wasn't a surprise, just something that i somehow blocked out.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:32 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815103 << understand though that the only reason they're surprising is because they weren't handled either properly or in time. there's a lot of leeway in how surprising the sort of predictable surprises are, by being what's called "proactive"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, anyway, phuctor is kinda deliberately designed to not be a "only us" item. so what can you do.
mircea_popescu: if only artists weren't thoroughly illiterate, we could like, have one.
mod6: oh yeah, i gotta get some extra sleep tonight before i do something dumb. like type my root password in here.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for thread-completeness, my other notions in re 'for subscribers of phuctor' were , in no particular order : earlier access to new pops (after queue is ready, conceivably give subscribers day, week, etc head start ) ; ability to download generated ~privkeys~ for Fully Phuctored mods , in various formats ; full-text search ; built-in converters ( your item, but it is on the for-everybody conveyor for a while nao )
asciilifeform: but currently not clear to asciilifeform whether 'game is worth the candles'
mircea_popescu: imo the former is a bad move. the 2nd is nb, but meh. someone will go steal someone's popsicle and random posturing dork will go "conspiracy!!!" and i won't care but you'll have to either shoot a "judge" or talk to him.
asciilifeform: i'd be surprised if there were any popsicles left to pinch
asciilifeform: picture, for instance, the poor mikrotik boxes , for which no fewer than 3 remote-root orifices were published in recent yrs (~on top~ of their phuctoring)
mircea_popescu: i thought he was just done explaining how he didn't like surprises. wanna go for a round yourself ?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:16 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, "but i think 20 shell accounts and 100 lower-end ftp-only accounts is probably the max" << on what basis ? deductive approach from lack of experience ?
mircea_popescu: well, still is. that's the part the dweebs rarely understand : trilema is 10k articles that are as interesting today as they ever were. they imagine just because nobody looks for 2015 huffington post in 2018 and no other sites have the sort of size trilema does besides "news" outlets, that such a thing dun exist. but it does exist -- the bugs luv the blackbody radiations.
mircea_popescu: if one thing can be done with machine-powered text classifiers, is discovering just how utterly uninteresting 10`000 articles on feminist-daily nonsense outlet actually are.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: a guess at what storage a 10 dollar/mo plan might be reasonably marketed at, informed by scrolling through a few pages of shared hosting offers and looking at a few in detail
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 04:20 mircea_popescu: aand in other "shit that wasn't in the logs yet", 𐏃𐎧𐎠𐎶𐎴𐎡𐏁
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, anyway, i ended up with a lot of cuneiform syllabusing because check this out : the principal trick of darius was to pretend the person he deposed ~wasn't~, actually, the person they claimed to be. ie, nebuchadnezzar morphed to an impostor (Nedintu-something), bardiya (brother of legitimate persian king) was really "gaumata" etc etc.
mircea_popescu: pretty interesting device in light of how the current empire works. it's a wonder they didn't discover "it wasn't hillary that lost, but a different hydra of the same name"
lobbes: This I am not sure of. My gut says a small percentage of each sale, but I've no idea what constitutes a "standard percentage" here. I am also a) inexperienced in sales, and b) motivated on the basis that the tmsr crisis isn't really over until a profitable Pizarro exists, so I'm pretty open on terms >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814925
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 19:28 ben_vulpes: lobbes, and BingoBoingo while i'm at it since i want to get you on the same train, what kind of commission makes sense to you for flogging shared shells?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:23 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815082 << i was able to find (after A LOT of expert searching, it is true) furnished apts conveniently located for all the girls ; didn't end up paying much of anything upfrtont either (they wanted a month's rent, i was paying quarterly anyway, so it sorta went away). gotta talk to "the people" (=dueno) though, "agencies" aren't so useful. but there's a 5% of the population
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 00:49 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815045 << the make food area incidentally is easy to misjudge. it'll make a world of difference, both in qol and what that qol costs, once you get a proper kitchen going. ideally with womanly help as i dunno you're that competent. have bread going every other day, have a pot of soup always, the good old strictures of european ie civilised life.
asciilifeform: was looking at '24 2.5" disks in 2U' chassis, for potentially 'tru ssd via usb3-to-sata cords' variant of rockchiptron; but seems as if all, without exception, such items ever made, feature 'sas expander', where all 24 hang off 1 plug. which is great for pc but completely destroys my notion.
asciilifeform: e.g. 'We don't need another slow, secure hash function' , 'no compelling advantage ', 'I don't feel that solving length-extension is a sufficiently pressing concern that we should all invest in SHA-3 now, rather than a hash function that hopefully comes with more advantages' , etc
hanbot: ah. tenemos varios personas aqui que hablan espanol, pero normalmente si, hablamos en ingles. i asked you if the "declaration" you read a couple times made any sense to you, and in general what your hobbies/jobs are.
fettiffany: ya le habia dicho a mircea_popescu que solia trabajar en un call center pero despidieron a un monton de personas incluyendome. asi que me encuentro nuevamente buscando empleo, y aun peor porque no me encuntro en mi pais.
fettiffany: me gusta la musica, el canto, la fotografia.
hanbot: fettiffany tenes que hacer uno, es siempre un buen idea. mientras tanto hay mucho aqui para leer, como la historia diaria http://btcbase.org/log/ , y por supuesto el blog de mircea_popescu. me imagine que el va a ser activo aqui mas tarde hoy.
hanbot: "'I'm ready for the battle, ready to make history," the 55-year-old politician bellowed at his final campaign rally in Caracas on Thursday, where he was flanked by the Argentinian football star Diego Maradona and wore a pickle-coloured shirt emblazoned with the image of Hugo Chavez." (via archive.is/YSHZF) << pickle-coloured shirt, eh? methinks the guardian's been reading BingoBoingo's blog lol
fettiffany: lo habria hecho antes pero pensaba que venezuela saldria de la crisis. y no fue asi.
trinque: fettiffany: I'm curious, how widespread is the realization in venezuela that "socialism is crap"?
fettiffany: et's see. in 2012 there was an economic crisis in venezuela, but you still went to the supermarket and got products. Today 2018 in the supermarkets there is nothing and if you get a product the price is equivalent to a minimum salary. How are people supposed to eat, buy medicine or clothes?
trinque: sure, but do most people say "boohoo, govt needs to stock the shelves", "fuck the government" or both?
BingoBoingo: fettiffany: From what I understand they get it in the mail from people outside the country and the mail gets stolen in transit.
fettiffany: 153/5000 since hugo chavez entered the presidency venezuela was decaying every day, until he died and left the piece of shit that is today president
fettiffany: they all complain, they march and protest but it's useless.
fettiffany: According to Diosdado they were going to charge a percentage of the remittances that family members made to Venezuela. and that's a steal
fettiffany: hat's the worst, they spend their time complaining about inflation and dollar today (it's a page that puts the prices of the dollar and the euro at black market prices) and they are selling dollars and bitcoins or satoshis at exaggerated prices. they complain when they are supporting corruption
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 21:10 ben_vulpes: funny how deeply the actual people notionally represented by the soi disant speakers for the people hate said speakers
hanbot: how the fuck do you get killed by daschunds?!
mircea_popescu: but in general, the surest way to ensure the deepest level of hatred that can be summoned in any situation is to pretend to things outside purview. dumbos claiming to be "presidents" etc just about do it.
BingoBoingo: hanbot: That's why it's news. Part of the collapse freakshow.
mircea_popescu: "This is not a guide to a correct Eulora build on Windows. Its the story of how someone did it while knowing virtually nothing about the tools, language or project. For all I know, its the worst way to do it that ends up working. " << i really like how this dood's mind is organized.