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2018-2-10 | 2018-2-12

mircea_popescu: whoa, so it turns out that besides http://trilema.com/2016/republican-thesaurus-with-vocabulary-and-dictionary there actually existed all along a http://trilema.com/2017/the-new-and-improved-republican-glossaurus/ !
mircea_popescu: ima have to merge these now. why's nobody said anything ;/
mircea_popescu feels kinda ridoinculous.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/ << Trilema - Scott Pilgrim vs the World
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-10#1783155 << After a night of meditation, sleeping, and taking in the local culture at the Desfile de Las Llamadas, "well meaning but ultimately ineffectual" is probably my best possible exit from this situation.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-10 14:48 mircea_popescu: i did try throughout, up to and including yesterday, to somehow compensate for the various issues, but eventually the time comes for the observation that the situation you created for yourself there is not actually tenable. spend your remaining cash on your plane ticket out, we're putting an end here to this well meaning but ultimately ineffectual effort.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-10#1783157 << On this point, taking a lot more explicit direction... perhaps from an alf pete_dushenski partnership, where my role becomes more hired hand than self directed center of the brand. I mention pete_dushenski because of his lack of toxic US passport and apparent management experience. I have my doubts alf alone is sufficient to right this ship, but if pete_dushenki wants try saving the republic
a111: Logged on 2018-02-10 14:58 mircea_popescu: more generally : i do not perceive any sort of future for the republic without an isp.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu is appears to be increasingly tired of propping up on his own.
BingoBoingo: And any potential saviors looking for a vanity project ought to mind that likely the best thing for my health and reputation is going to be returning to familiar AA meetings and the humble, anonymous life working in a hardware store.
BingoBoingo: And further mind a brief investigation of the local labor market yielded: http://archive.is/Hp01G#selection-3125.0-3125.286 "Una buena empresa donde trabajar si uno quiere desarrollarse, ya que siempre hay nuevas oportunidades. Se aprende una forma de trabajo completamente diferente a la que uno está acostumbrado en Uruguay. La gente que tiene uno a su lado es en el 99 % increíble. Es lo que mas se destaca."
BingoBoingo: So, if anyone wants to take on an expensive, high risk corpse of a venture at almost certain substantial loss in BTC value... I'll be here at least a few days, probably a week, maybe even the end of the month before heading back to the land of petrocheese.
BingoBoingo: So if anyone really wants my monkeyland mess, there is some time to think about it.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it's not that expensive, simmer down.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so he has like 20 bitcents in cash, plus whatever's left of the start of month 2k fiats + about 6k of credit with providers (pro-rata for what's left of two months).
mircea_popescu: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 8270.0, vol: 14372.29401855 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 8267.5, vol: 65591.17821759 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 8275.9, vol: 10439.5034439 | Volume-weighted last average: 8268.86746123
mircea_popescu: !~calc .2 + (2 + 6/2) / 8.268
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: .2 + (2 + 6/2) / 8.268 = 0.8047411707789065
mircea_popescu: the economic value of the item as it stands would be about .80 ; i'd take that in cash today.
mircea_popescu: alternatively, i have no problem taking say 1.5 worth of absolutely senior convertible equity in your continuant venture, however you call it.
mircea_popescu: either of these under the firm condition that if at a later point bb has to fly out, it won't come to me.
mircea_popescu: i don't imagine there's other bids ; but if there are feel free to put a time limit on your bid and we see. i certainly see no problem with the matter being disposed by nightfall.
mircea_popescu: now that out of the way, let's handle bb.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what your lack of experience isn't informing you is that you have a very significant advantage. your ~7k per annum cost compares very VERY favorable to what empire pays to hire a walmart drone (25k or so base + 20k or so in overload). the walmart drone costs 6x what you do, and i daresay they do not do 1/6th of what you do. just because you came out short of lordship in the field does not now mean the baseline of
mircea_popescu: the world is anywhere near. let's keep things in perspective, depressed or not.
mircea_popescu: the exact same holds re your overhead there. you have an office and so on that costs 1/10 or less of what it'd cost had a fiatola scampany carried it on its own books ; and the matter continues -- if we get a semi fulla 2u chassis in, we will have a pile chassis worth 2x what we paid for them due to the barriers the ineptitude of orcs place in our favour.
mircea_popescu: i dunno if as a kid you ever did those things where "oh, if i had time machine, what'd i carry into past to be rich" a la http://trilema.com/2012/the-seven-pillars/ say, but this is just about exactly that. space is time, you know.
mircea_popescu: the reason i'm cutting you out is because we have very poor fit, i'm a "provide general guidance and hangings" sort of manager and you evidently need a mommy, to check whether you packed your lunch and to ask if you need to pee every so often. should you find one you can certainly thrive, but you've not found her in me is all.
BingoBoingo: That management need matches with the learnings of the past week, which... I retrospect I can see in my entire time here.
BingoBoingo: It is why I am inclined for alf to solicit pete_dushenski or another more experienced manager as either a consultant or partner if he is interested in taking over.
mircea_popescu: not really your pay grade neh ?
BingoBoingo: I have a lot to learn before trusting myself much with the self direction is what this past week has been beating into me.
mircea_popescu: so then let your boss worry about his worries.
BingoBoingo: Alright
mircea_popescu: capitalism is nothing if not the piecemeal management of worry into manageable pieces.
BingoBoingo: I'll get some lunch while I wait to see what the aspiring next worry allocator's bid is to get me to stay in Montevideo.
mircea_popescu: word
diana_coman: on http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-08#1782802 and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-08#1782813 <- the more I think about this the more it seems to me that there is no point for bit-level extraction from state either; basically if bit notion doesn't make sense then why have it at extraction anyway; I think the choices would be 1.1, 2.1 and 3.2; as to the bit order for the output at the end of the day that is a convention too so it needs only to
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 17:01 mircea_popescu: diana_coman seems to me on the first pass the winning combo is 1.1 / 2.1 / 3.1 ; the phf objection to bit meaning precludes anything else it seems to me ; with the exception that won't bit-extraction (3.1) be particularly slow ?
diana_coman: be chosen and fixed once and for all
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 17:47 diana_coman: mircea_popescu, well, if input+output are considered at octet level, there is a case to say that reading out of the state is also done at octet level; I'll mull this over a bit longer re speed as such (for the word-level implementation because the bit-level is just as slow either way)
diana_coman: going with 1.1, 2.1 and 3.2 also takes out entirely from keccak the bit-to-value and value-to-bit conversions ; input is a stream of octets, output is a stream of octets and keccak itself works at word level anyway
mircea_popescu: i kinda liked the fiction that we have a bit-level something.
diana_coman: well, the bit-level implementation can and will remain
diana_coman: but obviously, matching the set of choices that we fix
diana_coman: what I don't really see the point for is the mixing bit + octet basically
diana_coman: as that's the trouble in the first place
diana_coman: so when it's bits it's bits only, when it's octets there's no bits
mircea_popescu: this makes sense.
diana_coman: obv, there should also be in principle a speed-up because of cutting off the "now word-> bits" part but that's sort of bonus the way I see it
mircea_popescu: aha
shinohai: http://archive.is/Q03e8 <<< "Let's ban porn" lmao
mircea_popescu: in other news, "Dead maze" is a kickass browser game.
mircea_popescu: very fallout flavour to it.
asciilifeform is not asleep, but in fact still calculating whether he has enuff fuel to take, theoretically, BingoBoingo's rocket to orbit, or only to make larger crater on the ground 
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/11/candome-a-venture-into-afrouruguayan-culture/ << Bingo Blog - Candome: A Venture Into AfroUruguayan Culture
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2018/02/11/trade-warz/ << Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Trade warz.
mircea_popescu: aaand in other lulz, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/tDP2X/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: upon reflection, it does seem canadians have rather more issues than is average for esltards.
shinohai: top kek
BingoBoingo: WTF, She opened with... A negotiation on term!
BingoBoingo: s
shinohai: The best part is it took her 2 whole weeks to formulate a reply
mircea_popescu: eh, took my foot. this is the stock in trade of the pantsuit rhetorics, "i am crying" "it took me X" etc.
mircea_popescu: they figure it lends weight to their otherwise weightless speech.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-11#1783278 << There are no problems waiting through tomorrow. Probably until Wednesday even since the city is shut down for Carnaval.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-11 16:34 asciilifeform is not asleep, but in fact still calculating whether he has enuff fuel to take, theoretically, BingoBoingo's rocket to orbit, or only to make larger crater on the ground

2018-2-10 | 2018-2-12