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2018-1-12 | 2018-1-14

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-12#1770012 << especially the notion that there's any point in even reading items younger than you. here's a pro tip : before dante's middle-of-the-forest, do not waste your time reading anything younger than you, there's absolutely no point and no benefit.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-12 23:36 lobbes: ""Dragan said. "The old code … was very difficult to understand, and I feel like that was unfair to the students to give them a document that wasn't easy to read and hadn't been updated since prior to their birth.""
lobbes: Aha, found that thread I was thinking of>> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-13#1642802
a111: Logged on 2017-04-13 12:32 mircea_popescu: today it's "here's a deck of representational trading cards, pick one to think you are, and we'll be reprersenting... the card!!! and therefore (?!?!?) you".
mircea_popescu: word.
mircea_popescu: incidentally re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-12#1769906 , check out what wikipedia stole : https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Select_Historical_Documents_of_the_Middle_Ages !
a111: Logged on 2018-01-12 19:08 asciilifeform prolly doomed to excavate and read the sourcetexts, like civilized people
mircea_popescu: actually not even bad!
asciilifeform: almost surprising it hasn't been 'disneyated'
mircea_popescu: i don't have the original here to check against it so it's not a certainty, but it doesn't seem to have been.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-12#1770015 << somewhat worrisome, BingoBoingo ~might~ have stepped on the 'who is principal man of this corp? oh hey, it's a usg slave, nao we, quisling orcs, gotta report him' mine
a111: Logged on 2018-01-12 23:53 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-12#1770000 << what's passports got to do with anything ?
mircea_popescu: work with better orcs is the whole of the idea.
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: i'ma let BingoBoingo answer this one, i have only minimal clue re what he did.
mircea_popescu: 0 value in building "secure" isp on alt-flavour of usgtronic pressed shitboard.
mircea_popescu: for the same money might as well ask "Director of Student Conduct Andrea Goodwin" what she thinks republican expression should look like.
asciilifeform: it's prolly not too late for BingoBoingo to unstep on the mine if he had in fact stepped.
mircea_popescu: learning exercise, hey.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-12#1769927 << ding ding ding
a111: Logged on 2018-01-12 19:15 asciilifeform: the worrisome aspect imho is that sanity is -- apparently -- fragile, while idiocy -- ratcheting/cumulative
mircea_popescu: i dunno what's so worrying about this, honestly. shit also cumulative, while good food fragile. doesn't seem to alter the table arrangements of my house or any one i care to know of.
phf: hmm, i suspect myself and ascii are products of soviet background. we expect there to not be shit also outside the castle walls (no shit in all the new soviet man's households by year 1956!)
mircea_popescu: what are the walls for then ?
mircea_popescu: like quaint anachronism ?
asciilifeform: place to hang carpet!11
phf: yeah, atavisms at best, museum pieces from the past, non-civilized, yccles in the marxist-leninist theory of cyclical historical development
phf: *cycles
mircea_popescu: what is the meaning of "ascension" in this context, if it isn't literally "i picked a chick out of the river of shit" ?
mircea_popescu: some kind of "she chose to work really hard and make something of her life ; went to school to get ny journaho job" ?
phf: there's no place for transcendent in a five year plan
mircea_popescu: so how are juniors produced in this system ?
mircea_popescu: (i thought the story of my rescuing a transylvanian naked neck chick drowning in the sty effluvia was written somewhere -- apparently not. aanyways.)
asciilifeform: it was tho
asciilifeform: iirc it is in the log
mircea_popescu: was it ?
mircea_popescu: hm.
asciilifeform: hm possibly it was a trilema
mircea_popescu: i just went through this marxist-leninist cycle myself
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-16#1699002 << found
a111: Logged on 2017-08-16 17:30 mircea_popescu: when i was about six or so, visiting some relatives who had a farm, i discovered a romanian bareneck (kind of chicken) chick drowning in the sty efflux. so i picked it out, and it was a pet for a year or so and then made a great soup. rooster, too.
mircea_popescu: o ty!
phf: actually i think in soviet system they were produced by going further distance from moscow. the whole soviet engineer model of economic expansion: send a group of leveled up moscovites to khanty-mansiyks to build a factory and a hospital
phf: pluck some locals that seem like they have a head of some sort, send them back to moscow for education, repeat
mircea_popescu: so is this a shit-denying&seeking schizo duality or what then ?
asciilifeform: such civ1
mircea_popescu: you know they're still walls when you're too poor and unskilled to make them out of stone and rely on sheer distances to supplant the actual construction.
asciilifeform: distances , in place like ru, are chea
asciilifeform: p
mircea_popescu: while that lasts.
mircea_popescu: they're also unreliable, western devils and their skateboardin' on the iron sidewalks.
phf: well, i'm also not sure which imperative i'm representing here, but i'm humoring the dynamic
asciilifeform: historically distance makes considerably better walls, than walls.
mircea_popescu: i thought you were just being a nightknight.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is so! quality wall--is horizontal. for they who can afford to pay.
asciilifeform: re mircea_popescu's experimental chicken farm : asciilifeform was amazed at the popularity of the backyard chicken in timis
asciilifeform: just half hour's march from center of town -- and they begin to appear
mircea_popescu: what dog is to boy, hen is to woman, throughout history and geography, from africa to suffolk and so on.
asciilifeform: worm-to-food converter, eh
asciilifeform: not bad deal
mircea_popescu: i dunno there's a closer item.
phf: chickens are incredibly easy to care for. two of three every summer in summer house
phf: *we had
asciilifeform: i missed out on this
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not just ; also sorta cheap toy, and clock, and it hurrs at itself to tell itself "All is well" and many things.
asciilifeform: very muchly clock.
mircea_popescu: part of the reason i despise the bright minds behind "seti" is -- fucktards managed to put no chicken in there ? really ?
mircea_popescu: they have no fucking idea.
asciilifeform: quite possibly the bird was 1 of the ingredients of euro civ , vs the monkeys
asciilifeform: *key ingredients
mircea_popescu: let's put it this way : henry's populist programme for england was build around "one chicken for every pot each week"
asciilifeform: and of china, and nao that i think about it everybody worth half a shit
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at one point this was actual usg propaganda slogan ( during greatdepression )
asciilifeform: 'chicken for every pot'
mircea_popescu: there's also an interesting property, whereby every domestic also has its parasite (obviously). cow has tb. goat has scabies. on it goes. chicken -- salmonella.
mircea_popescu: much better, in that it either kills or doesn't kill, but doesn't ~degrade~.
mircea_popescu: this is no small matter.
asciilifeform: 'in every pot we'll have a chicken, but, herbert hoover, you forgot: not only don't we have a chicken, we ain't got the pot!' (tm)(r)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha.
asciilifeform: i thought cow had brucellosis
mircea_popescu: well, obviously there's a whole train, and anthrax and whatnot. but the civilisation-shaping one, was oftica.
asciilifeform: ( still a puzzle to me what the natural reservoir of brucellosis is )
mircea_popescu: snails afaik.
asciilifeform: interesting
mircea_popescu: shit on grass cow eats, so on.
mircea_popescu: (note that it was only recently invented/discovered.)
asciilifeform: sufficiently nasty item that it was considered ( and possibly taken up ) for warhead
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine why, even tetracycline will kill it.
asciilifeform: well the weaponization programmes all featured resistance-selection
mircea_popescu: good luck lol.
asciilifeform: ( which , if it had worked, would make for some quite epic 'own goals' )
mircea_popescu: "oh this is a resistant strain --- 1.5 generations.""
mircea_popescu: "that does... absolutely nohing ?" "it passes the tests!"
asciilifeform: what actually happens is (mega-seekrit!) : virulence loss.
mircea_popescu: anyways.
asciilifeform: which is why the biowarheads went out of style. ( and not from pantsuitism/activism 'inhumanity' wankage , as commonly thought )
mircea_popescu: are you seriously sitting there and telling me that the pantsuit are 100% ineffectual and ineffective and the reason something isn't a weapon is that something not working as one ? DO WE STILL HAVE TO DO THIS ?~!?!? IN 2018?!?!?!
asciilifeform: lol
mircea_popescu: pretty lulzy.
mircea_popescu: the problem with your views is that they priviledge the speed of light over other speeds much more important to luce irigaray.
mircea_popescu: such as for instance the speed of print.
asciilifeform: and in contravention of university of maryland code of lol!
mircea_popescu: new york times general relativity much better -- "it's relatively free speech fundamentalism".
mircea_popescu: see ?
asciilifeform: verily.
phf: dat damore complaint
mircea_popescu: 27. Damore’s immediate supervisor was Cristian Tapus (“Tapus”). Tapus reports to Chuck
mircea_popescu: Wu (“Wu”), Senior Director of Engineering for Google. Wu, in turn, reports to Ari Balogh
mircea_popescu: (“Balogh”), Vice President of Engineering at Google. Balogh reports to Sridhar Ramaswamy
mircea_popescu: (“Ramaswamy), the Senior Vice President of GPI and Ads. Ramaswamy, in turn, reports to Sundar
mircea_popescu: Pichai (CEO of Google), who ultimately reports to Larry Page (CEO of Alphabet).
mircea_popescu: if this isn't from the soviet days i have nfi wut.
mircea_popescu: "They then mentioned that Google’s racial and gender preferences in hiring were not up for debate, because this was morally and economically the best thing to do for Google." << explanation of why it's sinking then left for whoever will pick up the pieces. the carly fiorinas only wreck corps to fuel failed political bids, they dun build shit or do the cleanup work.
mircea_popescu: another two pages eaten of that crap, another time i close the page. fucking lunatics.
mircea_popescu: but whatever, they wanna impale themselves on rusty rebar, it's their priviledge.
mircea_popescu: if your iq is over 90, going to work for google is the morally and economically wrong thing to do.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's a massively effective tard-selector on the intake end -- the part where ~100% of the 'high' pay of west usa slave goes to pay for roach flat shared with 3 other d00dz
asciilifeform: and it ain't exactly seekrit
mircea_popescu: well, by the time only coolies fresh off the indian boat will take your "great job"...
asciilifeform: formerly they preyed on the young folx
mircea_popescu: us is this very good producer of dumb young'uns on account of its desperately inept fambly anxiety.
mircea_popescu: but, to quote discussion of some crisis in the past, "even that is not boundless".
asciilifeform: aha. they hired them straight from school, for substantially abovemarket rate, and then hamstrung'em
mircea_popescu: !!up bonobo
deedbot: bonobo voiced for 30 minutes.
bonobo: i hate roger ver =(
mircea_popescu: who might you be ?
bonobo: shivatek
mircea_popescu: what's that ?
bonobo: it's my other nickname, and english is not my native language
mircea_popescu: this is a piss poor introduction.
bonobo: haha
bonobo: I do not want to bother you , but I'm frustrated, today I discussed with a guy 4 hours to make him understand who is Roger
mircea_popescu: seriously, not everything can be winged. you're not that special, and you sure as fuck aren't interesting. go put more effort into being presentable.
mircea_popescu: !!down bonobo
mircea_popescu: orc schools used to teach the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770066 orc children some basics in this vein, "if you ever end up in the company of human beings, as unlikely as that blessed occurence may be for something that crawled out of that whore of your mother, HERE IS WHAT TO DO AND NOT DO."
a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 00:29 phf: pluck some locals that seem like they have a head of some sort, send them back to moscow for education, repeat
mircea_popescu: i guess they've given up.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-04#1621970
a111: Logged on 2017-03-04 04:17 phf: back then su was pumping resources into india, but according to su economic strategy that mostly resulted in factories and hospitals. now americans are pumping resources, but that mostly results in moar mcdonalds. so naturally men with long memories are testy
mircea_popescu: it also results in a crazy appetite for gold jewelry, and some inept real estate development.
mircea_popescu: hruschebas at least make engineering sense in ONE paradigm ; the idiotic "modern" pantsuitism, don't.
phf: !!up bitleaks
deedbot: bitleaks voiced for 30 minutes.
phf: oh ffs
mircea_popescu: he just got told off a moment ago.
phf: !!down bitleaks
phf: yeah, i quickly noticed the masterful disguise :>
shinohai: Much like btcvixens
mats: in fiat-related pump and dumps, https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/10/reports-on-china-slowing-us-debt-buying-could-be-based-on-wrong-information-source-says.html
mircea_popescu: lol.
mircea_popescu: "day of reckoning may not even come, someone maybe once said so what the hell."
mats: meanwhile nobody at bloomberg has been arrested or charged
mircea_popescu: it's only free speech fundamentalism if it's not a first amendment issue, mats.
mircea_popescu: if anyone's ever looking for this, here's the curl that'll force-send a pingback on mp-wp :
mircea_popescu: curl -A "Mozilla/5.0" -r 0-4096 --connect-timeout 30 --max-time 10 "http://www.dianacoman.com/xmlrpc.php" --header "Content-Type: text/xml" --data "<?xmlversion="1.0"?><methodCall><methodName>pingback.ping</methodName><params><param><value><string>http://trilema.com/2018/minigame-smg-december-2017-statementhttp://www.dianacoman.com/2017/12/07/introducing-eucrypt/
mircea_popescu: </param></params></methodCall>"
mircea_popescu: obviously, fit own urls.
mircea_popescu: !!withdraw 0.078410 19y2uLpvrWAvTudFyxzZezLei3MkKd5pPb
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mircea_popescu: !~later tell hanbot here's something you might find useful : http://trilema.com/hanbot/
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
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knubie: !!up Covale`
deedbot: Covale` voiced for 30 minutes.
shinohai: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: shinohai: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 14424.98, vol: 10396.34266163 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 14468.0, vol: 29678.61768851 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 14200.2, vol: 44.6251823 | Volume-weighted last average: 14456.5541867
mircea_popescu: !!rated Covale`
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mircea_popescu: !!rate Covale` 1 euloran
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Covale`: mircea_popescu is that OTP for me to decrypt ? or just for you to keep track of ?
mircea_popescu: it's how commands are confirmed.
mircea_popescu: and it's for me ; when in doubt you can always check whose key an encrypted item is encrypted to.
Covale`: cool. had a look at http://deedbot.org/help.html but wasn´t sure. thanks
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-12#1769922 << "You suddenly see that Shakespear, with all his flashes and divinations, never understood virtue and courage, never conceived how any man who was not a fool could, like Bunyan’s hero, look back from the brink of the river of death over the strife and labor of his pilgrimage, and say 'yet I do not repent me'; or, with the panache of a millionaire, bequeath 'my sword to him that sh
a111: Logged on 2018-01-12 19:13 mircea_popescu: no, godefroy was naught else than a man. as per that shaw description, "the panache" etc.
mircea_popescu: all succeed me in my pilgrimage, and my courage and skill to him that can get it.'" & following, http://www.bartleby.com/157/100.html for the record.
mircea_popescu: and yes, there's an all-important difference between that pilgrim and the model pantsuit of http://trilema.com/2016/and-they-wont-fucking-yield/ in that the former, while incomprehending, is nevertheless inclusive of the world ; whereas the pantsuit's fears, anxieties and inferiority complexes really leave room for nothing else, they by themselves barely fit (and mostly don't fit) in the scant luggage his frog-like muscles ca
mircea_popescu: n carry.
mircea_popescu: there is some similarity between 'yet I do not repent me' and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-08#1767149 ; but for the same money there is some similarity between shit and leberwurst. organic compounds, amirite.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-08 17:18 btcvixen: but i am female
mircea_popescu: (and no, taste is not the difference ; they both thaste weird to the first timer, and they both have dedicated communities of conaissant consumers -- i fear even the shiteaters may be more numerous at that. as the expression goes, " not everything can be winged", by which "not everything" we really mean "nothing worth the mention". the hope that "oh, innate auto-knowledge dowloaded straight from god at the exact opportune mom
mircea_popescu: ent aka taste will save me" is exactly lucy-ism, dun do that.)
mircea_popescu: (v, of course, very much the correct solution -- shit is made by certain people in certain places in a certain way, and leberwurst also made by certain people in certain places in a certain way. review seals and presses to distinguish who's who and shit from leberwurst.)
shinohai: V: Eggog - Penis detected. Cannot press female.
mircea_popescu: heh
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> local company is a person in law ; if item you have is not a person in law, you have not registered a company ; if it is -- IT opens bank acct. << WTF previous accountant did is subject to ongoing investigation. My understanding is this was a matter of "Who is this agent of the company making initial deposit and swearing business is not a drug business"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that'd be... them.
mircea_popescu: or wtf are we hiring here, whores whose whoring consists of watching you jerk it and strippers whose stripping consists of sitting on chairs on "the stage" watching you watch them ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-12#1769911 << what's meant by vulnerable here is that these were very noob thinkers. they had correct intuitions, but broadly speaking failed to defend them from the insidious poison of the women -- that self-same "reasonable" of "it's not reasonable to cut the throat of this babe of mine, even though it sucks, how about we whittle it some palliative out of wood! it'd be just as good!".
a111: Logged on 2018-01-12 19:10 mircea_popescu: it was a sad vulnerable moment, incidentally. ever heard ye of hugh "magnus" (ie, le maisne in french, literally, "lesser born") ?
mircea_popescu: man who ends up believing "that antipope callixtus totally has the authority to call a crusade because I SAW MOON ECLIPSE" is not substantially different from the failure mode of ideologically unsupported djb, ending up with http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1634147 just as well as the celebrated http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-06#1043852 -- what are these but hughs, ending up fucked in the ass in eastern lands by eastern orcs
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 17:47 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he "will spend significant time" to find... "Research" tasks adequate to that fuckdolls "level" yet he can't be bothered to figure out how deedbot works ?
mircea_popescu: because they actually believed eclipse is cogent reason for pantsuit "reasonable" ?
a111: Logged on 2015-03-06 02:23 mircea_popescu: http://www.jwz.org/blog/2015/03/google-seems-to-have-broken-email-forwarding/#comment-160814 << sweet innocence.
mircea_popescu: all sorts of schmucks ended up with "oh, things will totally happen because i saw keiser on tv!!!", and so forth, then come here to ask me for "comment" on their latest idiocy because who knows, perhaps it's not because it's totally irrelevant and completely invisible that it wasn't mentioned, maybe it's not mentioned because they hadn't asked me, here i was sitting waiting for a rando to inquire!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> or wtf are we hiring here, whores whose whoring consists of watching you jerk it and strippers whose stripping consists of sitting on chairs on "the stage" watching you watch them ? << This appear to be what the accountacy turned into. Yesterday they insisted "eveything is fine, you will have an account at Itau within 20 days". Thusly I requested copies of my papers and went to BROU with the venezualan Spanish teacher.
BingoBoingo: Next week wil have a series of sitdowns with the cowork manager and other accountants to figure out what exactly "Grupo Carlos Picos / Consultoria" did and did not do.
mircea_popescu: that's vulnerable alright.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo alrighty, but as 2nd priority to actually getting the thing set up properly.
mircea_popescu: can sue, but only after you have money conduit in, so
mircea_popescu: (/me very much is in favour of it, you get to argue in court, how many can say same. for what it costs in orclands, worth for the experience moreso than az stripclub visit)
BingoBoingo: Right, that can wait. I suspect in this case properly means applying for residency next week.
mircea_popescu: just hire someone to do THE WORK for you. NOT to do "what they wanted to do anyway, here's how much i want to be paid for it" but WORK. ie, what you say, as you say it, when you say it.
mircea_popescu: instilling this into the heads of the useless orcs (or, zeks, for that matter) and selecting the ones capable of it (so the rest can be simply machinegunned/napalmed) is the fundamental job of the lord anyway.
mircea_popescu: "i want you to do work. this means, what i tell you to do. this does not mean, what you think you should be doing -- that's leisure, and you can pay me to watch you engage in it."
mircea_popescu: !!up NoMo
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mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-12#1769909 << in the sense of, pantsuit impudence, gelasius' famuli vestrae pietatis is possibly a good node, though there was a whole pile of after-the-fact, pious falsification going on towards the end of the empire, including a wholy fabricated "gift of constantine" and in general a whole lotta http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-11#1769397
a111: Logged on 2018-01-12 19:09 asciilifeform: ... or here's a q. 'worms' had a beginning, neh, at some time prior. where was this beginning, who first demanded 'reasonable taxations' , where
a111: Logged on 2018-01-11 20:10 phf: well, it's pious tzadiks writing revenge porn on goyim, which somehow fell on fertile soil in this country.
mircea_popescu: if one compares the pantsuit literary production post-fall of ~that~ empire with the pantsuit literary produciton post fall of their hallucinated clinton empire with http://trilema.com/2016/to-be-clear-hillary-clinton-lost-the-presidential-election-on-june-16th-2016/ one can't possibly avoid being struck by the EXACT IDENTITY
mircea_popescu: "o noes we really won and also things and matters and nobody understands how the world works" bla bla bla bla on it goes.
mircea_popescu: it certainly sets the basis of "the epsilon doctrine", (see http://trilema.com/2018/discordatum-wormatiense/#selection-103.331-103.42 ; and note how it is pretended to "equality" and even supremacy whenever the environment conditions permit, but pared down to an epsilon no-matter-what, exactly like the encapsulation behaviour of pathogens), in the sense that much like no french kings existed past 1050 who weren't anna of kiev
mircea_popescu: 's descendents, just so no doctrine of "split of power", be it inside the marriage or inside the state, ever existed to date that's not a derivative of duo sunt.
mircea_popescu: (speaking of which, anna of kiev! anyone know of that literate amazon an' how well she served her master and his son ? quite the model woman ; in any case a great story.)
mircea_popescu: (in other lulz, check out what portland state stole! http://www.web.pdx.edu/~ott/Gelasius/ "abridged translation for classroom use"! for entomologists only, otherwise teh sauce is https://archive.org/stream/epistolaeromano00unkngoog/epistolaeromano00unkngoog_djvu.txt ; or a proper hardcopy if the google mauling is offensive to the eyes, i guess)
mircea_popescu: !!key knubie
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shinohai: !!rate knubie 1 Managed a Eulora client
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asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770220 << if they asked for your ameripassport -- alarm bell
a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 16:44 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> or wtf are we hiring here, whores whose whoring consists of watching you jerk it and strippers whose stripping consists of sitting on chairs on "the stage" watching you watch them ? << This appear to be what the accountacy turned into. Yesterday they insisted "eveything is fine, you will have an account at Itau within 20 days". Thusly I requested copies of my papers and went to BROU with the ve
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it's a fatal eggog.
mircea_popescu: i dunno man, at some point someone somewhere must see some id or else what, bearer corp, first come just walks with it ?
asciilifeform: well no, agent knows your face ( or , better, pubkey )
asciilifeform: but anyway asciilifeform is not a mega-expert , but knows what this spiked pit looks like.
mircea_popescu: a person who interacts on the basis of faces is called girlfriend. it's fine to have, but it's not properly speaking a business arrangement.
mircea_popescu: a person who interacts on the basis of keys is called a l2. also fine to have, but if we had a l2 isp he wouldn't have been sent off.
asciilifeform: on other hand, a person who agrees that you is you after being shown some usg paper, is agent of usg.
asciilifeform: if doing business with those, can do it right here in usgistan, no need for airplane, bedbugs, neh
mircea_popescu: this shall be henceforth known as bb's intractable trilemma.
mircea_popescu: speaking of "definition of girlfriend", anyone recall that great line in http://trilema.com/2016/gangs-of-new-york/ "have i had you ? they don't use my christian name!"
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine what can possibly stop it -- the rest state is, "he who sees the face takes the cock" unavoidably.
asciilifeform: ( speaking of old trilemology : pheature req for mircea_popescu : canhaz randomolade url that returns a ~ro~ article ? )
mircea_popescu: hm.
mircea_popescu: aite, will put it in workpile!
asciilifeform: yay
asciilifeform stepping up rotaku diet, in gear-up for second expedition
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770240 << holyshit this has got to be the shittest ocr i've ever seen
a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 17:14 mircea_popescu: (in other lulz, check out what portland state stole! http://www.web.pdx.edu/~ott/Gelasius/ "abridged translation for classroom use"! for entomologists only, otherwise teh sauce is https://archive.org/stream/epistolaeromano00unkngoog/epistolaeromano00unkngoog_djvu.txt ; or a proper hardcopy if the google mauling is offensive to the eyes, i guess)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> on other hand, a person who agrees that you is you after being shown some usg paper, is agent of usg. << This works so long as you shuffle brown paper bags and no one knows about the bags without having more investment in future bags than the present bag
mircea_popescu: ^icjitizedbvGOOgle
mircea_popescu: but... don't complain too much ; the majority of the readers of that thing, which is to say monks in centuries prior, had it a lot worse!
asciilifeform: the j00z, of same period, were higher-tech, had invented checksum
asciilifeform: ( row/col checksums, believe or not )
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770250 http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770255 http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770257 << The cut here is probably going to be "get a local id"
a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 17:21 mircea_popescu: i dunno man, at some point someone somewhere must see some id or else what, bearer corp, first come just walks with it ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 17:23 asciilifeform: on other hand, a person who agrees that you is you after being shown some usg paper, is agent of usg.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 17:24 mircea_popescu: this shall be henceforth known as bb's intractable trilemma.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> if doing business with those, can do it right here in usgistan, no need for airplane, bedbugs, neh << Bedbug with hotchix better than nobugs with hamplanets
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'better rich and healthy, than poor and ill' (tm)(r)
BingoBoingo: But rich/healthy in what?
asciilifeform: i mean, it ain't as if 'hamplanet' is caused by begbug-scarcity.
asciilifeform: *bedbug
mircea_popescu: oyesitis.
asciilifeform: howssat?
mircea_popescu: the moment it's not clear to the female mind that "either do what i fucking tell you or else gutter", quite literally gutter as in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770051 -- there's nothing to protect her from assuming her globular final form.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 00:20 mircea_popescu: what is the meaning of "ascension" in this context, if it isn't literally "i picked a chick out of the river of shit" ?
mircea_popescu: pantsuit keeps talking of modern obesity as if it were immediately related to abundance of food. this is batshit nonsense -- harem girls in sultan's palace sure as fuck experienced no food scarcity.
mircea_popescu: the problem is that the relation is mediated -- cheap accessible food leads to disobedient female mind leads to destroyed female body.
asciilifeform: abundance of walmartolade + lack of walking
mircea_popescu: "die octavo Jduum Martiamm" << ahahaha this ocr rocks. check it out hanbot, jduu lives!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i also suspect that your model is incomplete : usa does not lack a gutter
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the moment it's not clear to the female mind that "either do what i fucking tell you or else gutter", quite literally gutter as in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770051 -- there's nothing to protect her from assuming her globular final form. << This is looking right. The girls seem to know what bites, and yet this is a nicer hostel.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 00:20 mircea_popescu: what is the meaning of "ascension" in this context, if it isn't literally "i picked a chick out of the river of shit" ?
hanbot: lol Jduum
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: USia lacks a gutter for women willing to have a child
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it lacks a clear and present conception of downward social mobility everpresent before the eyes and therefore present in the brain of the patients.
asciilifeform: maybe 1980s usa
asciilifeform: in the current-day one, ~everybody knows what 'downward mobility' looxlike.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo has it, there's gutter as in, http://trilema.com/2011/cel-mai-adevarat-in-gangsta-rap/#selection-89.212-89.464 but past the age of 20 or so, mamie-ing is pretty much guaranteed as a basal option.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nah, they count that as normal because they are in it together.
asciilifeform: e.g. the various gabriel_laddels living in communal flats, instead of their parents' cardboardmansions
mircea_popescu: cuz pantsuited hilarity wants to sit around fat women in colors and can't be arsed to take her bony behind to fucking harare.
mircea_popescu: so took harare to maryland instead.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as best i can discern the furtherst they've come to conceptualization is something vague and indistinct like http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-26#1717377 "bad luck" sorta neutrality.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-26 04:40 elaineo: it sucks a lot
BingoBoingo: Pretty much all of blue.usg is organized around woman has baby gets fed, more absent and delinquent the father more woman is fed
mircea_popescu: this is not even false, yeah.
mircea_popescu: well, they also feed misfortunate "pets" / animal abuse victims into a perfect globular shape
mircea_popescu: but... yeah.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: corn liquishit does ~same thing to all species, apparently. the poor beasts more often than not look as if raised for the table.
mircea_popescu: irk?!
mircea_popescu: "why is the fat woman going around with a live snack trapped in her stomachs ?" "that is a famous star and that is her pet dog" "you don't say ?!"
BingoBoingo: As I explain to people here the US is a poor country. The houses are build with sticks like temporary sets for stage and film. All the "riches" get burned in the insurance racket.
BingoBoingo: And the only crops the US still has the means to grow are corn and soybeans, but Brazil has eclipsed the US in soybean quality.
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 14296.78, vol: 8682.38149842 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 14319.0, vol: 30222.34604363 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 14520.1, vol: 460.41348177 | Volume-weighted last average: 14316.4512128
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770285 <- they weren't thin though either
a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 17:50 mircea_popescu: pantsuit keeps talking of modern obesity as if it were immediately related to abundance of food. this is batshit nonsense -- harem girls in sultan's palace sure as fuck experienced no food scarcity.
mircea_popescu: what is here meant by thin ? no, definitely not calvin klein 1990 thin.
mircea_popescu: but -- yes think ankles, and yes narrow waists, and no drooping jaw/pantsuit neckline.
diana_coman: it's true that food abundance doesn't have anything to do with anything, but the sultan's harem doesn't seem a good example really, that's all
mircea_popescu: which i suspect is the 100% of what "thin" even means to the male gaze, you can be a parsec across for as long as your ankle / neck fits in one hand and waist fits in two.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman any particular houri you have in mind or ?
mircea_popescu: !~google period ottoman cariye
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Ottoman Imperial Harem - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Imperial_Harem>; Cariye | İSTANBUL TOPKAPI HAREMİ SULTAN VE ...: <https://www.pinterest.com/pin/561683384750787563/>; 11 best cariye images on Pinterest | Harems, Ottomans and Ottoman ...: <https://www.pinterest.ca/zehfentuk/cariye/>
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, well, can't say I saw one for myself but on one hand it's not as if they were thrown out of it when old (or not all really as far as I gathered) and on the other hand all those "solduri falnice" etc can't be all that thin either
mircea_popescu: there, not even terrible summary -- OĞUZ TOPOĞLU : levni sarayda bir cariye minyatürü - osmanlı https://www.pinterest.com/pin/463659724121805066/
mircea_popescu: diana_coman turkic style girl (thick black hair, wide hips, almond eyes etc) can be quite thin, yes. anyway, when saying obese people think more of "this body has been defeated" http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/ sort of disaster, rather than "this body is expressing some sort of ancient genotype as best it can"
diana_coman: yeah, another abused word this fat basically
mircea_popescu: it was fattened!
diana_coman: ahaha, quite
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770324 << iirc they had a 'emeritus' harem, in old palace, for the old
a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 18:43 diana_coman: mircea_popescu, well, can't say I saw one for myself but on one hand it's not as if they were thrown out of it when old (or not all really as far as I gathered) and on the other hand all those "solduri falnice" etc can't be all that thin either
asciilifeform: ( aside from the case of that 1 sultan who 'retired' entire harem in the river )
mircea_popescu: well, ottoman harem was political institution.
asciilifeform: aha
mircea_popescu: sultan may now and again fuck one of the odalisques sitting around listening in in the corners, but the primary function was like... substitute cinema + vidya.
mircea_popescu: dood mostly sat around with the smarter ones played chess and talked poliphisophies.
mircea_popescu: ie, harems sexual function was symbolic, political function concrete.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> dood mostly sat around with the smarter ones played chess and talked poliphisophies. << Aha, the brasileras en hostel loved the story of the daring escape from the Dominica y su mama
diana_coman: gah, made the mistake of actually finding what seem like real photos of 19th century Iranian harem; as the saying goes, beauty is first of all a full set of limbs or what was it
mod6: hai
BingoBoingo: hai mod6
mod6: how goes BingoBoingo!
BingoBoingo: I am learning to become far less trusting!
BingoBoingo: Of local "professionals"
mod6: Sure. Nothing like jumping into the deep end of the pool 'eh.
shinohai: Afternnon mod6!
mod6: hi shinohai
BingoBoingo: At least if I need dental work, I know my Spanish teacher is sufficiently reliable and served in that profession
mod6: Heh, right on.
BingoBoingo: But one can not depend on a single professional for every task
mod6: It'll be fine as you meet & get to know more and more locals. That kinda thing just takes time.
BingoBoingo: And you know... get better at disqualifying locals faster
mod6: aha. ya.
BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/2013/the-broad-and-the-million-fireants-a-parable/ << A rereading
shinohai: And in other mentally ill alt btcvixens: http://archive.is/armSD
asciilifeform: 'Obama left behind “hints of a progressive legacy,” but very few permanent accomplisments' << oh hey wapo dun dictionariate either
shinohai: I will pop popcorn for the sure to follow expulsion vote if it gets elected.
knubie: lmao shinohai
asciilifeform: expulsion vote ?
shinohai: House and Senate can vote to expel anyone they deem "unfit"
asciilifeform: oh hah they can
asciilifeform: 0 since civilwar tho
shinohai: Yeah, they actually let Ted Stevens serve.
mod6: to the gallows with 'em all!
shinohai: I was gonna recommend anal impalement mod6, but ......
mod6: omg colorizing these edges by hand is taking some time.
mod6: making some diagrams for the blog post here...
mod6: Lords and Ladies of The Most Serene Republic, I have created a blog post outlining the behavior changes in 99993. Please take a look and consider these changes. Let me know if you have any comments or questions! Thanks in advance. http://www.mod6.net/2018/99993/99993-changes.html
diana_coman: that looks very good to me, mod6
trinque read as well, makes sense.
asciilifeform: oh hey neato
shinohai: !!up organdnor
deedbot: organdnor voiced for 30 minutes.
mod6: diana_coman: ok thanks for taking a look!
mod6: thanks trinque
organdnor: i am in appreciation for the voice
organdnor: now that ive done homework; i have learnt wtf itvus going down here.
organdnor: are the most high Lords and aristocratic godhead popescu & the ascii4lyfe grand admiral in current attendance?
shinohai: And who might you be organdnor ?
organdnor: having been oblivious as to what *trilema* refers
organdnor: i dink bout the deeper net in search of intelligence
shinohai: Sounds like you could use a little.
organdnor: read the logs for this individuals prior confrontation
organdnor: indeed, indeed
organdnor: who couldn't?
shinohai: !!down organdnor
shinohai: Come back when you have something meaningful to share.
knubie: lol
knubie: weirdos popping up everywhere today!!
asciilifeform: knubie: same goes for you
asciilifeform: !#s from:knubie
a111: 50 results for "from:knubie", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Aknubie
asciilifeform: ^ not a single thin in there that isn't a turd on the road
asciilifeform: *thing in
mod6: <+asciilifeform> oh hey neato << yeah! let me know what ya think, it's all up for discussion.
mod6: no rush.
asciilifeform: mod6: looks correct
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770339 <bwahahaha share ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 19:20 diana_coman: gah, made the mistake of actually finding what seem like real photos of 19th century Iranian harem; as the saying goes, beauty is first of all a full set of limbs or what was it
mod6: asciilifeform: ok great! thanks for reviewing
mircea_popescu: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a9/2e/5c/a92e5ce12c954638b17cde3676398143.jpg << http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-01#1419542
a111: Logged on 2016-03-01 21:57 asciilifeform: 'fata de impins vagoane' !
mircea_popescu: quite exactly, too!
asciilifeform: holyshit
asciilifeform: https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/nintchdbpict0003601919321.jpg?strip=all&w=960 << similar.
mircea_popescu: the last iranian shah was a little... welll....
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a9/2e/5c/a92e5ce12c954638b17cde3676398143.jpg << http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-01#1419542 << looks like jay leno
a111: Logged on 2016-03-01 21:57 asciilifeform: 'fata de impins vagoane' !
mircea_popescu: https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/news-1471347116-9610_large.jpg << apparently moustachioed womenz were at a premium too.
mircea_popescu: aaanyways, irani chicks are naturally quite hot, nfi what inbred cesspool this is.
hanbot: ahahaha mod6 she totally does
asciilifeform: royals, prolly
asciilifeform: like errywhere else
mod6: hanbot: :D
mircea_popescu: !~google antoin sevruguin portraits
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Antoin Sevruguin - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoin_Sevruguin>; Antoin Sevruguin | Iran in Photographs | Explore | Freer and Sackler ...: <http://archive.asia.si.edu/iran-in-photographs/antoin-sevruguin.asp>; Antoin Sevruguin's Portraits : African presence in Qajar Persia: <https://indian-ocean.africa.si.edu/in-qajar-persia/>
mircea_popescu: (busting the above pantsuit "body image politics" bubble is productive. for instance, more actuallty typical of the period, http://www.cvltnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/nude-1-1-750x550.jpg
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770183 << is this...a per-month list of words with occurrence counts & article links? cause it's pretty cool, i'll see about working it into indexer. i did notice that eg "wouldn" got counted as a word...cans escape for apostrophe?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 07:06 mircea_popescu: !~later tell hanbot here's something you might find useful : http://trilema.com/hanbot/
mircea_popescu: hanbot yes it is ; sadly no, because ' is used ambiguously as quotation mark or apostrophe.
hanbot: ooh
hanbot: well not that big a deal rly
mircea_popescu: http://www.cvltnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/girl-1-700x394.jpg << more of the same.
hanbot: wow 63 months eh. subjectively sensed .en trilema was so much younger...
mircea_popescu: five.years.
hanbot: anyway this is a really cool itam, tyvm!
mircea_popescu: originally i was going to make the thing one single page, but guess what ? 200mb html file, i doubt any gui browser can meaningfully render
hanbot: nuts
mod6: yowza
mircea_popescu: (not that this matters, right, they got unicode why should anyone worry about being useful)
shinohai: If you think Iranians that look like Jay Leno are hot, check out: http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/sexyvitalik.jpg
mircea_popescu: that claw ;/
hanbot: mircea_popescu : how didja arrive at 12 occurrences as the threshold for reportage?
mircea_popescu: i dunno, magic number ?
mod6: shinohai: lolwtf
mircea_popescu: i coulda done larger, but you realise it immensifies the files. i just guessed it's a term that'd be rare enough to be memorable.
hanbot: aha. !#s precious cuntlet
hanbot: !#s precious cuntlet
a111: 12 results for "precious cuntlet", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=precious%20cuntlet
mircea_popescu: lmao!
hanbot: lmfao
mircea_popescu: see ?
hanbot: i got nuffin'
mircea_popescu: only ~4 articles mention it btw.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770409 <- idealul lor in viata e femeia cu mustata!
a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 22:38 mircea_popescu: https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/news-1471347116-9610_large.jpg << apparently moustachioed womenz were at a premium too.
shinohai: mod6: Butterin is close to full mental collapse. I'll bet the Republic could troll him into: http://archive.is/DiPMq
mod6: wait. that blue haired alien was the mETH guy?
shinohai: Yup. One and same.
asciilifeform: mikehearn will have to make room in his swiss ski lodge
mod6: holy fuckin guacamole
shinohai: lol asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: diana_coman aha! i typed that out at first but then censored myself!
asciilifeform: in other 'news', apparently gnuplot is not capable of labeling datapoints on a log plot.
asciilifeform: ( because nobody ever does this !? i have nfi )
asciilifeform: add yet another proggy to the grand old list of 'liquishit, barely works, and NO alternative known'
shinohai: Ever used "R" asciilifeform ? (though it is a behemoth to me)
asciilifeform: shinohai: tried, barfed

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