Birdman: mike_c so it went through all these hands and says it processed ~30k of them, but what am i actually looking at here? the hands it lists in the prompt are the ones that the discrepency is found?
mike_c: the output is bad hands. it's comma separated - filename,hand#,player_that_is_not_in_summary
mike_c: working for you? anything you want changed?
asciilifeform: 'After his ouster from the West Wing on Friday, ex-White House chief strategist Steve Bannon declared the Trump presidency that his brand of populist, right-wing conservatives helped make a reality is "over."'
Birdman: so i went through and deleted all the tournaments cause those are not relevant, and i got seemingly different results. I think maybe its displaying less than all the hands it has found? i only saw four cash game hands the first time, deleted all the tournaments, and now i see a ton of cash game hands
a111: Logged on 2017-01-26 19:29 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes depends on how good a job bannon does.
Birdman: and if im not mistaken it lists the player who is missing in the summary and will list the same hand twice to show if another player was missing in same hand so that extra fat that could be trimmed but im not asking you to fine tune this or anything lol, thoughts on it maybe not showing all results for lack of space of something?
Birdman: it seems to me that the bug im looking for is most likely to appear in hands processed that aren't sequential as the sequential ones are most likely entirely fragmented and the ones with only one player missing are the ones im most likely looking for
mircea_popescu: lol Birdman 's got a consultancy bidniss almost going ?
Birdman: not sequential, i mean the ones that repeat the hand number
mike_c: um, not following. but you're saying you want to see the ones that are only missing one player?
mike_c: well, now that I'm thinking about it, not sure how that would work as a service. Because I had to use some assumed virus ridden POS BCH wallet. So I swept out a BTC wallet, then imported the address keys into the assumed virus wallet for BCH
mike_c: currently i could sell 500 BCH(bcc? whatever) for a bit over 50 btc. price has run up last couple of days.
mircea_popescu: bit of a time bomb, as i'm sure these will pop up. first mover advantage i guess.
mircea_popescu: anyway, cheap source of retweets/likes/wjhatever such social media crapital.
mike_c: well sure, but who gives a shit about social media. it doesn't have any btc.
mircea_popescu: (though traditionally the way "bitcoin doubler" scams work is that they pay off initially. and i don't expect this "bitcoin cash market" thing is anything else, however it may be interpreted by the retard crowd)
mircea_popescu: mike_c well, social media has tits. though usually of the useless variety.
mike_c: there's a decently deep book. takes 4500 BCH to get down to 6% right now.
mike_c: I don't think the market will last long enough for automated service to be worth it, but I'll turn the cranks if anyone wants me to clean out some spent keys.
mike_c: Reasonably manual process, so there would be a reasonable fee, but it's free money if you're not going to do it yourself.
mike_c: Sure - given keys, I will sell BCH quickly - not too much regard for trying to optimize yield, without being entirely stupid about it. I'll keep.. 10% and give other party 90%. My fee will be minimum 0.5 btc and maximum 10 btc.
Birdman: hey mike_c is this a fun project for you or somethin? if you can be bothered theres some improvements i would ask for to narrow down what im looking for in that script, though im not trying to overstep any boundaries here.
mike_c: it's about bedtime for me. feel free to paste in a wish list. if it's quick I'll knock it out for you over the weekend.
mircea_popescu: the thing is, places like italy or spain have the natural-born whores to compensate, two or more to the household.
mircea_popescu: who would pay to fuck a british bag is anyone's guess.
mircea_popescu: in other words, there's no greek stoppers for britain, once it goes it goes.
mircea_popescu: (and , of course, they're making the eternal soviet mistake, spending 5bn on "research", except in healthcare, ai, batteries, self-driving vehicles, satellites etc. ie, trying to spend money to rewrite history with themselve in the picture. if you have a fucking clue you never invest in R&D in "hot" shit)
asciilifeform: ( every usg-sucking orc has this fantasy, that if he pens one of these just-so, chopper transport will materialize and take him to harvaryaleton and obummer will personally pin on him iron cross with oak leaves and award mcmansion )
r0nin-: <+mircea_popescu> in other random lulz : romania closed 2016 as the strongest economy in the eu. 1.3% drop in inflation, <1% budget deficit, 38.5% debt to gdp. stable local currency yoy.
r0nin-: <+mircea_popescu> this is ahead of sweden (1% inflation champs), the uk (5% deficit and 90% debt to gdp LOL), denmark, you name it.
r0nin-: <+mircea_popescu> and the uk specifically is headed for a shitter of epic proportions. they've to retool, but have no space to borrow to support capital costs and no strength in the labour market.
r0nin-: wahts the cost to produce EU products? a fucking lot.
mircea_popescu: understand this ? at first there's 100 pounds of goods and 100 pounds sterling. then the uktards want to live above their means, so some bezzle is printed up, say a further 20 sterling. then the trade deficit starts, and in the next step there's 80 pounds worth of goods and 100 pounds sterling in the country. discounting the pound sterling from the original 1 to .8.
r0nin-: that why US has a high consumption level despite producing nothing, while germany everyone is poor
mircea_popescu: it's not that it has it. it's that it went from "empire" to "minor province" through maintaining a trade deficit. EXACTLY in the manner spain went from world's empire to minor province, two centuries earlier, through maintaining a trade deficit.
r0nin-: no it wasnt. all the aristocrats were completely broke from jewish loans taken out in the 19th century in order to pretend they are like the romans
r0nin-: hence all the villas littered on the countryside
mircea_popescu: was doing a fuckload better before the introduction of the telegraph empowered the englishtarded concentration of administration. somehow they newver learned anything out of the america defeat.
r0nin-: churchhill was so broke he literally sent family members to america to beg for money for appearances sake
mircea_popescu: but anyway, back when "english" essentially meant dutch, it was doing just fine.
mircea_popescu: the decline has nothing to do with that. uk has been on a decline path since indeed, 1800s, and will continue to decline. and because their women are ugly, there's no italian parachute under their ass either. wales is a fine example of where england ends up.
mircea_popescu: but the ~reason~ for it is very much found in 1600s trade policy. the dutch had open trade, the english wanted all trade to go through london. their centralist, counterproductive approach is what sunk them. they kept getting freebies, such as when the dutch moved over under wilhelm to become "english", but by and large uk is a thrown rock. it goes down.
mircea_popescu: and the reason british empire was dying already by the time hitler cut its head off was that the brits in their idiocy wanted all the various policies in india etc to be set from london.
r0nin-: the english model has always been built on usury
r0nin-: usury as the source of value in the economy
mircea_popescu: but in my experience, generally people take refuge in minutia when scared of biting the problem. wtf difference does it make how i construct an enumerated set, maybe i push icecubes off the table into the paper bin with my penis.
mircea_popescu: and this 1 2 3 4 bs implying metered and measured and ordered and whatnot. aaanyway, /me reads on.
mircea_popescu: spyked no, see, you already reference "arbitrary order" without having even discussed the matter. why is a list ordered ? how is it ordered ? can penis pushe ice cubes not be a set ?
spyked: yeah, it was very easy to conflate "list can be described as either nil, or pair between something and a list" and "list is defined as". I could rewrite sometime if you think it's worth it; I don't think it is, I was just trying to show how reasoning about software isn't trivial even when you have a framework for that, let alone when void *p = ...;
mircea_popescu: "We may informally state that "reversing a given list yields the list which has the same elements but in the exact opposite order (e.g. right-to-left, as opposed to left-to-right)", but we have no way of accurately specifying this in our language other than by defining rev and postulating that "rev reverses any given list". The same goes for appending lists."
spyked: he has a start-up where he employed an army of "proof engineers" to work on systems verification. I'm pretty skeptical about it, since I tried very hard to understand his papers some years ago and now it's completely paged out of my brain
mircea_popescu: the problem with getting "engineers" to construct proofs in this vein is that engineers have too much monkey in them. "doctor, doctor, if i shove it in this way it works!"
mircea_popescu: this is nice, especially when found magic weapon in the field. but also very useless.
mircea_popescu: whereas romanian "right" at least in the sense of, parliamentarily, is very much washington democrats, all into eu bureaucracy and occasionally inadequate liberal economic policies.
spyked: anyway, the one and only advantage of UPB CS department is that for now it still has the resources to bring up smart people, most of which unfortunately turn into goog/fb/whatever employees. I don't think that's gonna last for long though. wish it did, but...
spyked: I resisted many attempts to turn the "programming paradigms" (Lisp/Haskell/Prolog) course into a Java thing.
mircea_popescu: eh, the paradigm gotta shift from this pasty ass "ima try and make a lot of moneyz so maybe im left with something after wife dolchstoss)
mircea_popescu: ted, ie, natural size + natural boundaries, you are left with a pile of usable tools which naturally construct a solution for any ~possible~ problem.
mircea_popescu: software is the worst offender here, but hardware is also pretty bad. consider -- i don't want to buy "A fridge", i should buy standardized compressor units, and so on. why do i want "the fridge" ? there's no need to debate "whirlpool" vs "obamacare". compare discrete items.
spyked: diana_coman, but giumale retired. btw, I know he made a Lisp machine clone back in the 80s. the hardware might be lying around somewhere in the faculty.
spyked: mircea_popescu, I agree. do you mean"the fridge" as in somewhat close to the platonic fridge?
mircea_popescu: spyked consider that most consumer products come kitted anyway, and when you buy a car your question is "well is the engine from mexico or brazil or germany ? is this the original transmission ?" etc.
mircea_popescu: i assemble my computer out of parts to no great sufferance, and get for my trouble a much better computer than any of the pre-made buying dorks.
mircea_popescu: and i bet you have ikea shit within eyesight right now.
mircea_popescu: spyked was it a cartpenter you hired, ie, a guy who worked in wood, or was it an ikea clonal system you hired, ie a guy who went to a central warehouse where they cut some glue-dust planks to his spec ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman aha. most of anything left standing were parts of that. "greaua mostenire a epocii ceausescu"
spyked: asciilifeform, I'll ask around, see if I can dig stuff out of the archives (assuming there are archives)
mircea_popescu: spyked see, the thing with orc lands is that they have this. borz, chechen made smg. the egyptians made engine parts to VISUAL spec, by hand. i saw this. guy here offered to produce a replacement pressure hose for me, by visual inspection.
mircea_popescu: this is artisanship, after a fashion, but not to be confused with the genuine article imo.
mircea_popescu: they're the ~copies~ of minoan vases produced in syria, not the actual minoan vases.
spyked: yeah, but must still be of some use though. I don't know if there's even a genuine Lisp machine in ro
mircea_popescu: anyway. the point being that competition should happen on narrower elements.
phf: fwiw, if the goal is to put an existing lisp machine onto an fpga, then i don't think macivory is a particularly good target. the goal would be to run Genera, which is severely lacking sources for critical components.