Birdman: Hello. I'd like to commission the writing of a script that can go through text logs and find certain discrepancies, would be paying in either btc or ecu (eulora coppers), if anyone is interested. I think its a fairly simple thing to get done.
Birdman: Ah, so i have a bunch of poker hand histories that log from beggining to end the players dealt in, their money, the progression of the hand, and finally the summary. The discrepancy i need found is where the seat numbers dealt into the hand at the beginning are missing entirely at the hand summary, and to spit out the hand numbers where it is found. Some hands that are corrupted will have a "seat256" in the summary
Birdman: so that could be a false positive or that discrepancy but would be of little consequence if those get mixed in anyways.
mircea_popescu: this is why you don't want to permit frisco-based shitheads taking over "the world" or any part of it : they'll come up with some dumb shit like that and then you'll be stuck re-inventing cabs or toilets or whatever.
asciilifeform: mike_c: count on at least 2wks ( supposing you're syncing from 'wild' net )
mircea_popescu is seriously considering kicking/banning ramoras that get in the way of autocomplete. no fucking way i'm hitting tab twice becauser random dork thinks he's getting before mike_c. name yourselves ZZZimashithead instead eh.
mike_c: i'm not doing it for .0000025 btc, but I'll do it for free.
asciilifeform: not only that, but the sync mechanism is still same as it was in 2011 -- thing speaks to 1 node at a time, selected at ~random, and if the other end is a tard it can loop theoretically forever
Birdman: the idea was to get a script i could run on everyone else's hand histories in the future, right now i only have one person's, is that something that can be done or should i wait and get together everything i need processed?
asciilifeform: 'better the bottle in front of me, than the frontal lobotomy' (tm)(r)(usa)
mircea_popescu: Birdman give out a large enough datapile the script can be made, then you can run it over your grandma.
mike_c: oh. well, without a bunch of hands it will fail due to lack of examples.
Birdman: ah nice, she'll enjoy that. does google docs link to compressed file of data work?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let's put it this way, i don't miss my native alcohol.
ben_vulpes: "As soon as you connect your Trezor to a power source such as a computer, without entering any PIN codes or opening any websites, the Trezor device firmware by itself fills the SRAM with all your sensitive secret information."
mircea_popescu: i can't find the trilema article illustration with the three girls under cold water but inserted by reference.
phf: i like how tropical bathrooms are usually made as a sealed concrete boxes (i guess mediterranean variation would have nice tiles on top, like a greek bathhouse or hamami). no hidden crevices for mold, etc. BUT probably also better for any kind of situation that requires iron rings in walls
phf: he was also one of the freebsd core developers, worked on the original USSR<->world isp, etc. i've seen him couple of times, though never spoke. he was friends with the guy who taught me how to computer, so periodically would show up to moscow state
asciilifeform: seems like d00d quietly naggumed in his bed for some yrs before died, neh
phf: i wasn't a rich imperialist at the time, but freebsd was quite pleasant on a 300mhz amd, i used it as main os for a long time, until, yeah, 2002 or so. this is also when i switched to mac os x, which was perhaps a mistake. i suspect these people made their own deals with devil
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: aha! i esp. liked how mike_c didn't hesitate to tell me 'yer wrong: rather, here's different hypothesis'
mike_c: but hey, wish in one hand and do some work in the other
mircea_popescu just got through making goat buttermilkj marinade for cow tongue for girl's barbecue tues. pray for me that it works, because a) they never had cow tongue and b) they never saw diary marinade and generally c) pretty suspicious side glances all around.
ben_vulpes: i swear by yogurt marinades for chickens
ben_vulpes: and in the morning i will still be a married man
mircea_popescu: but let us drive the inquiry. why won't we want what you have ?
ben_vulpes: all me to clarify that by we i mean "here", miserable socialist hellhole of the pnw
ben_vulpes: and the "what" that "we" have is, well, you know the haircut that screams "everything offends my delicate intersectional sensibilities" from a block away?
Birdman: mike_c thanks very much! one last question though as im pretty illiterate: i downloaded python for winbl0wz, i save that text in the paste to a text file with name, i run python get the command line, what would i type from there specifically? also do i need to unzip files to run it on?
ben_vulpes: that is what we have and that is what nobody wants.
ben_vulpes: which reminds me, i was in $bezzlecorp's offices the other week and found these hysterical signs in the degendered bathrooms reminding folks to put the seats down.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-18 04:57 mircea_popescu: crazy thing from c1 (or 2 ? i forget ?) xapo dude was on the way to lavish mp picked restaurant, stops on street to buy who the fuck knows what inedible fast food "because hungry".
mircea_popescu: anyway, to make this matter plain as i suspect it has ample potential for misunderstanding :
mircea_popescu: there are two classes of indisputable facts. one is that yes, lead acetate is effectual against sprains. the other is that yes, lead in any form is toxic.
mircea_popescu: now, the fact is that lead is also legally unavailable today. this is not necessarily sorosconspiraci : orcs with very low passive environmental exposure may very well afford a little bit of lead sugar now and again for a sprain. nevertheles, "civilised" ie overexposed pantsuits can nor afford such a thing.
mircea_popescu: for them, any bit of lead is toxic, because thye are already overwhelmend by lead-rich environment. and so for them, it doesn't make sense to use lead acetate for sprains, because the costs exceed the benefits.
mircea_popescu: this doesn't mean the benefits aren't present ; nor does it mean their costs are universal costs. it's just what it is.
mircea_popescu: and no, obama didn't do this. the problem was already manifest two centuries ago, in the sense that it's entirely possible beethoven went deaf (a major early symptom of saturnism) due to drinking wines sweetened with the stuff. which was already illegal back then, but then he was a miser.
mircea_popescu: don't be silly. whoile cattle is for when your dozen women have their thirtieth child or such.
ben_vulpes: the smallholders who raise them in the area inevitably surround the purchase with all sorts of hijinks. "you will come to the farm and we will introduce you to the herd; you and the rest of the half and quarter-purchasers will have a rollicking good time with your and our children dancing and drinking around the fire until the wee hours. room in the barn for all, plus tents outside if that appeals."
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i think horizontal freezer will hold a quarter of an animal
ben_vulpes: i am also curious to see how poorly the freeze treats the meat
mircea_popescu: it's perfectly fine if half children's and if still poledancin' hos then girls' too calories come from meat. but this comes to what, 20-30k a week for a young woman with three children, ie about 6kgs ? that's a goat not a cow.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you're more than welcome to find out on own, but freezer meat is for fridjof nansen's fram, not for people living at homr.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-18 05:32 mircea_popescu: now, the fact is that lead is also legally unavailable today. this is not necessarily sorosconspiraci : orcs with very low passive environmental exposure may very well afford a little bit of lead sugar now and again for a sprain. nevertheles, "civilised" ie overexposed pantsuits can nor afford such a thing.
mircea_popescu: it's lead not strontium. anyway, lead is not found in diet outside of civilisation, and microgram does are experimentally safe. so : the first microgram of lead is free.
asciilifeform: 'not yet detectable saturnism' dun mean 'harmless dose'. just as 'not yet acute radiation sickness' dun mean 'lower gamma does 0'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-18#1700026 << in teh morning mp wishes to state that while the harem arrangement, however understood, is not to be discarded out of hand, nevertheless it can't possibly be the correct solution for everyone everywhere all the time. specificity of, you've guessed it, diddling!
a111: Logged on 2017-08-18 04:47 ben_vulpes: and in the morning i will still be a married man
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the point is interesting. plants do indeed get cancers ; but because plant cells do not travel in the anima's body at all, plant cancers aren't terribly agressive (so wouldn't normally kill the plant). nevertheless, very valid point, can readily study impact of background radiation on cell division by inspecting the monoclonal grooves.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-18 00:22 mircea_popescu wonders idly if they even teach e's sieve these days. prolly too "high level" math for the "Real world" as imagined by eloy ortiz oakley.
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-18#1699952 << the other day I marinated some pork pieces in the juices of a freshly squeezed lemon, about a quarter cup of Michigan maple syrup, some crushed red peper flakes, and salt and pepper. Turned out pretty tasty on the grill.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-18 04:02 mircea_popescu: anyone want to share his bbq marinade recipe ?
mircea_popescu: PeterL the reason she stated primes as 6k+-1 is because 80% of numbers are divisible by 2 or 3, and it makes no sense to check them.
mircea_popescu: but in any case, e's sieve was erathostenes' in my line.
mircea_popescu: (the ancient original, cut out nth number, everfy 2nd from 2 every 3rd from 3 etc. euler's sieve is "take out a number, multiply the remainder of the list by that number, take out all the items in first list found also in second". which is faster yes, a generalisation of the 6k+-1 thing.)
mircea_popescu: (euler actually came up with that doing the riemann zeta function product)
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's a lot of work that went into this "program needs list of prime for initialization" thing back when people still actually put thought and work into computers. see wheel factorization etc if curious.
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG s.nsa customers! all outstanding fg orders SHIPPED today
mircea_popescu: at stage n, when bitcoin exists, curtis yarvin is too stupid to understand why it's much bigger than him ; and the mental efforts of marginal retard are just about comensurate with the sub dollar value of a coin.
mircea_popescu: as things go on, the quality ratchets, and lo and behold : bioscum that was still functional by yest's criteria is no longer apt today.
mircea_popescu: consider how the republic works, it's the same thing : at some point in tmsr history, nubbins could qualify to participate. at some later point, adlai couldn't manage to pass the bar.
asciilifeform: well yes. but how does it help ~us~ that redditus things 'i'd buy some btc but it'll evaporate off my box anyway because no sane wallet'
mircea_popescu: whereas retard braions leak, because that's the definition of retard, and then mpoe-pr has to pen psas about "hey, retards, you being qualified for 1 and thinking you're qualified for 2 threatens the very fucking market"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, you might not see how anyone might think, but then again you'll be stuck explaining 2012 tardstalk.
asciilifeform: as i see it, redditus buying ( or better, TUPW-ing ) some btc and then throwing his key into /dev/null, is ~also~ a productive-use-of-bitcoin
asciilifeform: but not as productive as not-losing, because disincentivises repeat shots
mircea_popescu: not ~ONLY~ everyone thought 1 means 2, but the same "everyone" thought i'm "arrogant" or w/e, "psychopath" for saying things like "you are not qualified"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the retard does not ever do that. what the retard does is herd.
mircea_popescu: it's basicalyl a blind seeking of hillaries, they herd as a behaviou searching the environment space for a pantsuit to "lead them" into welfare statism.
mircea_popescu: so no, poor people not owing any money is not a problem. it is in fact the fundamental guarantee ~REQUIRED~ by any sound financial system, much like atmosphere is required for auricular function.
asciilifeform: one of the fuels of welfarism is the 0 experience typical d00d has with money-that-dun-evaporate-by-itself
mircea_popescu: as per the ancient "i sold my shares once the soubrette i was fucking on the side started talking shares with the bootblack"
asciilifeform: sane wallet would go some way to curing this condition.
asciilifeform: if that means a 500k-usd btc, what's the problem ?
asciilifeform: let the idiots do what they are good at -- being meat
mircea_popescu: consider the case of mehmed and alt-mehmed. now, mehmed has the historically accurate cannons which 4% of the time blow up and kill some servants. whereas alt-murat has the imaginary alt-cannons which still 4% of the time blow up naturally, and also include a "blow up" button, which, if depressed, 4% of the time blows up in the same way.
mircea_popescu: would you propose a transition from alt-mehmed to mehmed would improve the soldiery quality of the turkish janissary ?
mircea_popescu: the notion that the price of btc / the fall of constantinople / etc hjave anything to do with this is so much lulz.
mircea_popescu: the dollar at sub bitcent per thousand or per trillion has nothing to do with what the idiots do or what happens to the idiots.
asciilifeform: as it is it is the sane-but-humble folx ( who understand that their winblowz box does not make a reasonable btctron, but haven't 20yrs to live life again to make something else ) who are pushed away. i dun see the win.
mircea_popescu: what matters is whether there's one lord or ten assassinating usg drones etc. not random joe blow. not AT ALL.
mircea_popescu: consider the sad case of djb to see the great win of NOT wasting your resources.
asciilifeform: i dun see the win in the inca getting whatever remains of their labour
mircea_popescu: moreover, your model veers dangerously close to "sane but poor". there is no such thing as "respectable poor". the poor are scum. substantially.
mircea_popescu: if they wish to cease being scum, let them get off windows or w/e.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because their labour is worthj a negative sum of money.
asciilifeform: i dun see this universal. consider (they exist) a skilled surgeon, willing to work 'off the books' for btc but he HASN'T the 20yrs to get off winblowz.
mircea_popescu: you understand this ? "opening" code so that blackchixcode can "contribute" "their" ideas is not improving the code. it's actually introducing a cost, of the magnitude of running a free buffett for crack whores.
mircea_popescu: there's no way out of this. there will NEVER be such a thing as respectable poverty. it's called slavery, and the poor that aren't slaves are in open rebellion against god, nature, and everything good right and proper.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-29 17:32 BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=8142 << "Her attorney informed us this morning, that although the deed is being assigned to my sister, my brother and I, that if my mother requires nursing home care through Medicare at any point over the next five years, that the Feds will take the house to pay the bills. "
asciilifeform: inca is very much a thing -- same thing as the nazi guard who keeps 5000 penned in with schmeisser with just 100 rounds in it
mircea_popescu: at time t (=9th grade) all girls in "community" found themselves in agreement sucking cock is gross. at time t' (=12 grade) all girls in "community" found themselves in agreement only peasant girls don't suck the cock.
mircea_popescu: we shall here call the ideology at time t "inca" and at t' "tmsr".
mircea_popescu: your idea is very feminine, you know, "i met this crook, and he told me ia cu mustar mimisor ca face bine la ten and that he'll marry me. so i imagined myself practically married. and then he didn't marry me. so he confiscated my marriedness!"
asciilifeform: the gold bar that inca can't take off your corpse, is called btc
mircea_popescu: fortunately, there's no kako-nubbins party to argue that hey, as btc price is chiefly supported by the republic, which has a lot to do with mp, it is therefore mp's job to idemnify "the users" as imagined by kako-nubbins for "this loss" resulting from his you know, unauthorized use of resources for purposes not priorly reported to the almightyly important kako-nubbins party!
asciilifeform: that 'philosophy' never really made sense to asciilifeform , even from psychiatric pov -- coin is owner's to blow as he feels like
mircea_popescu: no but we're all under a discreet obligation to promote the herdemocracy! everything else is theft and corruption and racism and so on!
asciilifeform: but hey, if mircea_popescu gets haetmail for not propping up btc to 1mil obummerbux per, asciilifeform gets 'you suck, why not derived constanttime gcd yet' , wonder what other folx get
mircea_popescu: anyway, rolling back up this many branched loop : there is nothing to be gained by mentally denominating capital in uniform standard dosidoes, nor by mentally denominating labour in redditard.
mircea_popescu: because usd doesan't buy you anything you actually want ; and redditard can't make anything you actually want.
mircea_popescu: yes they buy and make some things. this is of the nature and substance of clouds.
asciilifeform: take redditard as a container -- why shouldn't however many 'tidebux' he has squirreled away, chase scarce btc in market ?
mircea_popescu: consider : 1. large corporation, worth 1 trillion. analyst expected profit year end is 75 billion. company beats, makes 76 billion.
mircea_popescu: 2. small start-up, worth 1 million. analyst expected profit year end is -300k. company beats, makes 999 bn 999 million 700k.
mircea_popescu: both these items made the same unexpected billion. nevertheless, in the case of 1 this will be discounted to about a third of its value, resulting in minor share appreciation c.p.
mircea_popescu: whereas in case 2 it will be put at so massively a premium so as to make 2 stock outstanding worth more than 1's.
mircea_popescu: this is because the "same" money is discounted on the basis of "in whose hands it finds itself" -- the 1 people are expected to lose most of it under couch cushions ; the 2 people are expected to take over the world with that scrawny one billion.
mircea_popescu: the only reason everyday joe doesn't encounter capital discounts is because a) too small and b) too stupid. otherwise even someone running a small video rental comprehends the difference between accounts receivable depending on from whom, and so on.
mircea_popescu: whjole fucking point of investing, at least in the buffett understanding of it (apolitical, or in his case naively copacetic-political, columbia floating over farmer drawn hills) is to identify the corps with the most favourable capital discounts and to buy those while selling their opposites.
asciilifeform: 'The FBI has been briefing private sector companies on intelligence claiming to show that the Moscow-based cybersecurity company Kaspersky Lab is an unacceptable threat to national security...'
asciilifeform: 'That followed the General Services Administration removing Kaspersky from an approved-vendors list in early July and a congressional push to pass a law that would ban Kaspersky from being used by the Department of Defense.'
mod6: <+asciilifeform> in this light, doing anything whatsoever other than 'hodling' is raw deal. << there are exceptions
mod6: but mostly, the savings rate far exceeds the yield of capatal allocation; which is obvious. and will stay that way for sometime as fiats -> 0. someday, that'll be different.
mircea_popescu: seems to be obvious and necessarily true, iunasmuch as bitcoin has 100% of the world savings market share and about a millionth of a percent of the world capital allocation market share.
mircea_popescu: just like if on an imaginary island you had a farm that produced all the milk but none of the meat, the return would be mostly in milk and not much in meat.