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2018-6-17

asciilifeform: meanwhile oh hey mircea_popescu time to reclaim yer rockchip ? ( you paid for it, iirc subscription is good through june )
asciilifeform: or hah no, loox like full yr
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1802247 <<
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 21:31 deedbot: Invoiced mircea_popescu 0.04344809 << 1 rockchip @ pizarro, april 19 2018 -- april 19 2019
asciilifeform: technically the neg rule not even invoked in this case, as the subscriber is mircea_popescu ; he can do whatever he feels like with the thing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ping BingoBoingo ( to plug the ssd into dulap ) and asciilifeform ( to work the magics ) if you want it relinuxed.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: unit 'A' .
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1802286 << apparently it's 4mo
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 22:01 ben_vulpes: quarter is 3 months, you bought 4
asciilifeform: so through aug 19
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sokay, dood can keep it.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at art school, https://78.media.tumblr.com/dcddeeeaabe8d8f888b25503ac4c6174/tumblr_nxgfv79Bzi1rbytn9o1_1280.jpg
douchebag: mircea_popescu: The reason for the negrate wasn't exactly clear.
deedbot: http://blog.esthlos.com/fuckgoats-some-thoughts-and-minimal-tests/ << esthlos - FUCKGOATS: Some Thoughts and Minimal Tests
mircea_popescu: esthlos the atempt to weave practical thought and ideology isn't even fruitless ; i believe the symmetry described is truthful and informative.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, it's false to claim violence is usually the driver of submission. the slave's need to submit, or more specifically https://78.media.tumblr.com/d926fbf7f8b20c715946d9477fbbc555/tumblr_p85oiw4jb91x1qecto1_1280.jpg ; the slave's drastic incapacity, inadequacy and insufficiency are the driver.
mircea_popescu: nobody trusts implicitly "or else". idiots trust implicitly because they objectively lack the capacity for anything else, so it's a strict "either trust implicitly or not at all" dilemma they face.
mircea_popescu: nobody buys an ipad because "otherwise they'll get shot by LAPD". they buy the ipad because "i am so fucking stupid, i literally can't tell the difference between this piece of shit and a working programmable machine".
mircea_popescu: in this context, "if you're going to trust implicitly, either trust the republic or it's the lime pits for you" is a direct continuation of "if you're going to believe in god, you'd better fucking believe i am that god", ie some minimal mental hygiene.
esthlos: aha. so no ultimate threat of violence is needed in slave mind; the knowledge of inadequacy is enough to drive the submission? and then violence works to direct the submission?
mircea_popescu: violence actually works to resolve slavery.
mircea_popescu: think about it : nobody is more independent minded than street urchin. why not ? nobody's got more hard knocks.
mircea_popescu: the reason wife exposure (as discussed in say http://trilema.com/2018/le-salaire-de-lidiotie/ ) WORKS is specifically because the harsher the world treats her, the more independent she gets.
mircea_popescu: "risks to undercover agents", in every fucking manual/imperial discussion/whatever since the days of edgar hoover (who didn't permit it, btw, and for this reason) is specifically that exposure to violence renders slave incapable of "readjusting" to "normal" environment.
mircea_popescu: same thing with inca soldiers and so on.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the den, https://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6dx03ZOqI1qh1gdpo1_1280.jpg ; guess why it's even called a den.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this theory was , afaik, pretty much as tested as anything could ever be, and stood. consider how su turned to old toiletpaper just as soon as the last ww2-hardened folx retired from running it
asciilifeform: similarly -- usa
mircea_popescu: yeah, not much of a theory. theory in the sense theory of evolution is theory.
asciilifeform: exactly same
asciilifeform: 'without this, nuffin makes any sense' or how it went
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-6-18#381193 << could let teh customer manage his own, regardless do let me know if the machine in q starts misbehaving
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-06-18 00:37 asciilifeform: meanwhile oh hey mircea_popescu time to reclaim yer rockchip ? ( you paid for it, iirc subscription is good through june )
mircea_popescu: he gets excited.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'll say if i need anything.
ben_vulpes: i'd hope!
mircea_popescu: meanwhile on parquet, https://78.media.tumblr.com/8fcde2d3f9f87fb3d4956e669f443d25/tumblr_oriypkF9Eg1w2850jo1_1280.jpg

2018-6-17