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2019-10-20

trinque: mp_en_viaje: I haven't built any hot-wallet features to date aside the stuff running deedbot's !!deed, parts of which can be repurposed for what you want.
trinque: I'm willing to do that because mp_en_viaje is cool, even though I don't think otherwise said item will have enough throughput for a % to be worthwhile
trinque: to make this happen, I need to replace some infrastructure I had in UY (the boxes down there weren't idle entirely)
trinque: this will take at least a few weeks
trinque: and yes, this means after the UY collapse !!deed does not currently work
trinque: I've got things in motion to spin up my old dc.
diana_coman: morning highway-mp_en_viaje
diana_coman: !!up mp_en_viaje
deedbot: mp_en_viaje voiced for 30 minutes.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947260 << alright. to catch back here, after a lengthy interval of low thoroughput resulting obviously in some desyncing : to my mind there's three items outstanding.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 00:44:41 trinque: I've got things in motion to spin up my old dc.
mp_en_viaje: your self-interest one is the perfecting of in-channel payments, such that deedbot can be used not merely as the processor of republican record, but also as the everyday support of commerce.
mp_en_viaje: this'll require managing small payments on an hourly rather than day+ timeframe. it was specced back in 2017 or some shit, and i deliberately did not push the issue on the expectation and implication that you're sitting there responsibly and effectually, like a lord,
mp_en_viaje: not angstily and spinningly like a spinstress, thus therefore progressing daily towards a goal, rather than wasting time "[http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2017-04-07#1640167][being worried]" or whatever the hell.
ossabot: Logged on 2017-04-07 14:24:31 mircea_popescu: no, let's also de-equivocate think. there's two kinds of think, one's a forge/reflow/examination of trees resulting in analytical consumption of inputs with actionable outputs guaranteed ; the other is a neurotic behaviour perhaps best described as spinning, whereby specific emotional triggers / detriggers are visited in succession. the prussian model was never concerned with the former in any sense, but merely
mp_en_viaje: there's an important difference here : that deedbot is the payment processor of record is a ~priviledge~ i grant you, precisely in the manner and of the nature of my saying you now own county devon.
mp_en_viaje: whether you manage to produce five billion pounds of silver by running county devon or five hundred pounds of debt is a reflection on you, not on the county devon. how great a lord you are entirely rests on what great things you can accomplish on how little in granted priviledges -- and this for the very simple and utterly unmissable reason that another lord Devon there will be ; but another county Devon never, and therefore
mp_en_viaje: any mismatch will have to be fixed on the fixable side. see ?
mp_en_viaje: so as the matter stands, you're currently eating the priviledge to no great productivity, and not doing your own interest, which is in itself ludicrous. hate the other folk doing exactly the same as much as you want -- nobody hates anybody ever but for the reflection of himself he perceives in them.
mp_en_viaje: the second, which is the hanging matter, is that i meanwhile specced a new functioning of ratings and voicing, the to-spec execution of which being the very bedrock upon which deedbot payments even work. come april or whatever, i'm not about to do the old style lordship ratings,
mp_en_viaje: meaning that i'll be confronted with a very http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-08-02#1926167 situation in six months' time, something that's evident to ~anyone paying any attention at all, and so liable to eschew mention.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-08-02 02:14:00 mp_en_viaje: o look at that, phf logger also quit sometime last night. hey!
mp_en_viaje: i'm mentioning it specifically because hey, why not, but normally wouldn't have, again on the expectation that "his lordship" is not hollow pretense, but actual and factual description. this is what it describes : a man who needn't be told the obvious. naught else, it's all it is.
mp_en_viaje: finally, the third, which is the small matter, is that currently attempting to paste things back and forth is being disrupted by [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946284][arbitrary nonsense]. i'd very much like (not so much for myself, heh, but for the glory and heathen-perceived might of this our here republic) to be able to get strip club footage via a transparently logged process showcasing the great practical
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 10:25:23 diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: should I set her up with a ftp account on logs.ossasepia.com?
mp_en_viaje: value and utility of gpg ; but we've currently missed out on capitalizing on that particular one opportunity -- which opportunity, again, [http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946645][costs money], and which opportunity, evidently, can't actually even remotely be replicated by anyone else -- because hurr durr, something's saved by capping pastes at XXX rather than YYYY. help me out here, what's the cost versus whats t
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 17:20:58 mp_en_viaje: i have been keeping a (quite public, at that) log of a wide reaching "where is it not raining" research project. expensive enough, too, i've been burning 4 figures/day, every day, since ~april. not that the point is how to make it cheapest or anything
mp_en_viaje: he benefit of me, you or anyone else being able to show some self-important rando that logpoint years hence ?
mp_en_viaje: that'd be where we stand, now i want to hear sense from you back.
mp_en_viaje: and holy shit crappy internet's annoying. bbl, checking the logs, whether my say got reflected now, fucking timewaste
mp_en_viaje: aite, that's checked and a-ok.
mp_en_viaje: the experience of travel certainly informs how a better ircd would work, i can say that much.
mp_en_viaje: it's evident the orig item was designed by pantsuits, 0 respect for the importance of the connection baked in everywhere.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: 0 notion of that I would say, what respect
mp_en_viaje: ircd exists not as much as support for great mighty lords and their sayings ; but as the central star of individually worthless masses of zeks
diana_coman: that brings to mind those trivia irc -chans, lolz.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, myeah. it's funny how universal, and how hard-core, if "subtle" the political choices one makes shape the output.
mp_en_viaje: the belief that individuals are entirely devoid of value or importance, mere interchangeable pieces "for a greater goal", ie nude and rude fascist socialism, is all over ircd.
diana_coman: in fairness, most encountered, are exactly that; and I suspect that's where/how it even happens.
mp_en_viaje: prolly.
mp_en_viaje: buncha cosmic ray emulators.
mp_en_viaje: (incidentally, the historical dukes of devon were the cavendish family, with salisbury an' derby together the main three)
diana_coman: I read salisbury and derpy :D
mp_en_viaje: lol
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2019/10/21/and-i-wont-save-you-from-the-rats/ << Ossa Sepia -- And I Won't Save You from the Rats
BingoBoingo: And this morning I have emails from Oscar (NOT Maxi) asking pretty please, when do I plan to come pick up my stuff.
BingoBoingo: Anyways this DKIM anti-spam thing that never worked as anti-spam apparently is actually useful for asserting "Yes, this email really did come outta your server"
mod6: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947033 << Ah, yes Sir. This seems correct by looking at the latest Piz Liabilities table.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 04:26:22 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946968 << for some reason i thought the foundation had equity.
trinque: mp_en_viaje: bumped the max upload to 40M for ya. on the other two points, I said I'd do these, but I'm also being plain about my intent to run castle trinque as a net-positive entity. I'll figure that part out myself.
trinque: I thought it unwise to have torched 4-5k following piz, to say nothing on this and move forward smiling.
trinque: torching 4-5k here and there for honor is a great way for a man who just stepped into capital to promptly step back out.
trinque: on that subj, if there's someone interested in paid work on deedbot, see me! I'm not very good at growing arms.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Deedbot's a lisp thing right? I suspect spyked may be a capable pair of hands for the task if he is available.
trinque: correct
BingoBoingo: trinque: And thank you for pushing me into activity on the matter of applying maximum pressure.
trinque: get 'em!
trinque: bbl
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/2019/the-tar-pit-mp-wp-theme << The Tar Pit -- The Tar Pit MP-WP theme
asciilifeform meanwhile cooked up the spreadshits ; tonight after salt mine will write article re costs.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947300 << BingoBoingo was that an unconditional capitulation?! or attempt at himmler-style 'separate peace' ? plox to fill in.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 11:00:22 BingoBoingo: And this morning I have emails from Oscar (NOT Maxi) asking pretty please, when do I plan to come pick up my stuff.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/10/china-condemns-foreign-backed-color-revolutions-around-the-world/ << Qntra -- China Condemns "Foreign" Backed "Color Revolutions" Around The World
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947275 << [http://trilema.com/2019/trilema-goes-dark/#comment-130688][see also.]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 06:15:43 mp_en_viaje: meaning that i'll be confronted with a very http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-08-02#1926167 situation in six months' time, something that's evident to ~anyone paying any attention at all, and so liable to eschew mention.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947289 << irc protocol is dried chewing gum, imho difficult to make case that it 'was designed for' anyffin at all.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 06:24:43 mp_en_viaje: ircd exists not as much as support for great mighty lords and their sayings ; but as the central star of individually worthless masses of zeks
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It is their addressing the potential criminal complaint in the police report.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lol, maybe 1% of it ( what was left trapped in that chest ? coupla rk ? )
BingoBoingo: I suspect Maxi boy is under strict orders not to contact me further in light of the liability he constantly generates, provided he is still employed by Latecho.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Switches, rails, rockchips, and oh so many cables.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ianal -- but seems like admission of invalidity of contract. if they intend to persist in the claim to the oct-feb moneys, would then logically continue to sit on the irons, neh
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I replied that I will set up a retrieval appointment at a later date when the chance of rain is low to non-existent, and that the noc@ email address they want me to coordinate through rejects my messages as spam. I attached the rejection email as a .txt with full headers.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: since you have a printer, may be worth sending same to their snail addr. notarized.
asciilifeform: then cannot make excuse 'oh, spamfilter ate.'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well meeting with lawyers later.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The last email sent to the noc@ address was October 5th
asciilifeform: a.
BingoBoingo: And the rejection was specific to the noc@ address
mod6: Thanks for the update BB.
BingoBoingo: Maximum pressure to Latecho. Minimumal punch list for the lawyers.
BingoBoingo: I do know going in, that with the big pile of emails in English... if this goes to court licensed translator or translators will have to bill for the translation.
BingoBoingo: Thanks to the DNC email server thing in 2016, that DKIM establishes non-repudiation is fairly common knowledge
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wai would that necessarily hold in orcistans ?
mod6: Take good notes, get the billable hourly rate from each prospective lawyer. Thx.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's headline news about a property of email protocols.
BingoBoingo: mod6: Well, I am going to be bringing good notes.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: US precedent doesn't apply here. In Roman law however facts are very important.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: (again ianal) but afaik 'facts' are what the local apparatus decides were facts, an' not otherwise
BingoBoingo: In jurisprudence here, the courts investigate the facts and apply them to cookie cutter of the legal code.
asciilifeform pictures orc judge trying to unravel dkim etc hairball
BingoBoingo: That's what lawyers are for if it gets that far.
BingoBoingo: The skilled work of presenting facts in a way judges are capable of digesting.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if this were in usa, would already smell of 6fig of 'expert witness' bill, that
BingoBoingo: This is not the US.
asciilifeform: tru.
BingoBoingo brb, picking up business cards and other pre-meetings prep work.
BingoBoingo suspects if anything invitation to datacenter was bait for premature enforcement of contract suit service.
BingoBoingo: For the curious the filter I am applying to actions and timing at the moment is the idea of "tiempo" from chess. At the moment I have it an advantage of at least one in hand, and will not cede it for free.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'sente' among 'go' players.
mp_en_viaje: howdy
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947300 << so set a date this week, and send your liason at the police preceinct news that they contacted you and thanks.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 11:00:22 BingoBoingo: And this morning I have emails from Oscar (NOT Maxi) asking pretty please, when do I plan to come pick up my stuff.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947304 << tyvm ; and definitely. i would love nothing more than for model castle to pop up, net-positive and everything. so i'll do all possible to help you out there.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 12:17:01 trinque: mp_en_viaje: bumped the max upload to 40M for ya. on the other two points, I said I'd do these, but I'm also being plain about my intent to run castle trinque as a net-positive entity. I'll figure that part out myself.
mp_en_viaje: easily the worst part of my example is the "und die hundert millionen in meinem schatz" / "money is no object" "battleship mp" part.
mp_en_viaje: self-sufficiency always beats out great wealth on the long term.
mp_en_viaje: or, to quote the lulziest group in all england, "When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. And that one sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, and then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that’s what you’re going to get, Son, the strongest cas
mp_en_viaje: tle in all of England."
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947305 << absolutely.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 12:17:58 trinque: I thought it unwise to have torched 4-5k following piz, to say nothing on this and move forward smiling.
mp_en_viaje: waste is universally a bad idea.
asciilifeform polishing off the scientific cost analysis piece, but grr prolly wont finish until after mp_en_viaje asleep...
mp_en_viaje: i don't sleep.
mp_en_viaje: i wait.
asciilifeform: a++
feedbot: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/10/fg-fed-linux-rng/ << bvt's backtrace -- FG-fed Linux RNG
BingoBoingo back from lawyer meeting #1
BingoBoingo: Productive, going to blog notes.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Will set that pick up date and thank the local cops.
BingoBoingo: Apparently telegrams are a thing here, and sending one is the next step.
BingoBoingo: What happens after that depends on how good Latecho is at math given all of the correspendence between myself and latecho is in English.

2019-10-20