phf: asciilifeform: couple of weeks ago a gentleman sat down at my table at a capitol hill cafe and after a rather brief and unremarkable small talk started asking me, why "you", which shortly turned to mean the cia, are following me.
phf: i started humoring him, "that's what we do", "the hunter must hunt" etc. but that might've been a mistake, because he got progressively more agitated, and i had to depart out of fear of him getting violent
mircea_popescu: i'd be surprised if not a full half of the aspirational 14% is firmly convinced there's MORE THAN ONE man hour / hour spent by me/usg/god/aliens/whoever specifically on their case.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-13 19:58 zx2c4: wondering - how might i achieve great wealth and donations for wireguard from you/trilema?
asciilifeform: helps to recall that the d00d is certifiably insane tho ( lived for yrs on a usg pension for insanity. as portrayed by TLP. wonder what happened to this -- they were abolished? i've nfi )
ckang: i think all terry needs to be happy is a room, bed, internet, diet shasta, beer and cigarettes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, but i can imagine, you know, lenghty string of ustards trying to help, where their help was of the form "we'll expend x resources if you're willing to jump through y hoops" and he refusing and them going umm... why doesn't the form thing work!!1
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they lament exactly so, and not specifically about this d00d, but erry single schizo ( incl prolly the one i saw last night )
mircea_popescu: that's the substance of "costs more than gf" -- resources, spent ; hoops, not jumped. "irrational" behaviour in the imperial contractual sense.
asciilifeform: this is the likely explanation for his transition to hobo stage -- prolly he finally stopped filling out the magic form etc
mircea_popescu: so amusingly enough, THEIR understanding of his mental issue is built entirely of his sanity. his problem is exactly the rest of what they identify. quite interesting marginal case in being so neatly split. usually there's some overlap.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, i'm starting to understand a lot of things about why the maga can never be, consider the gritted, unyielding, sheer determination of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-20#1803769 ; and i've noticed my us-born slavegirls CAN NOT QUIT. even when hopeless, even when wasteful, their specific identifiable mark in whatever harem social games is they're the ones that can not fucking say uncle.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-20 17:44 mircea_popescu: finally coming out of the massive bender at t2, the dude WOULD STILL LIKE TO EAT. how would you eat if you were him ? would you give up, do something else with your time ? he doesn't give up. he's fucking dedicated.
mircea_popescu: now, 50, 100 years ago this was a great characteristic of that maybe-one-day-a-nation conglomeration in our colonies.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile it's become a fixation in the children ; now merge it with the church of self esteem and its holy youcandoanything, and the REASON http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-16#1800094 ie "smart kids" always being found with their pants down acting the "man alone" part and never learning anything from the experience is pretty fucking clear.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-16 16:19 mircea_popescu: man acting alone is stuck with these "oh, a conclave of idiots bent on self preservation and avoiding the lowly station their idiocy warrants them holds all the power, and i'll act as man alone confronted by governemnt".
mircea_popescu: larping, yes, but not merely for fun nor profit. larping as a life philosophy.
mircea_popescu: now go ahead and make it great again. HOW ? they lack the instruments with which they'd agree upon a great in the first place. collection of terries, give them coffee or not give them coffee, they'll move about like an algae bloom.
asciilifeform: whatever other mental cockroaches he could have suffered from in youth, it is all quite thoroughly masked nao by having gone properly batshit
mircea_popescu: and i'm pretty sure you're exactly right, he could be into fiat again if he started filling in the magic form again.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is kinda what i was unknowingly reaching for, with the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-20#1803880 : more data to extract the understanding out of what looked like a promising vein. but in the meanwhile sleep reorganized observation for me and now it's quite fucking plain.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-20 18:55 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, well, buy him a steak.
asciilifeform: d00d's on his unstoppable journey into the upper tundra.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i mean consider the lengthy list of shit. sent "academician" into retirement ? raped bank new arsehole ? raped govt ministry new arsehole, and as a community project no less ? raped... mit's "media lab" new arsehole ? exposed assets, exposed toolchains, i can do whatever the fuck i please and ~NOT~ be famous.
mircea_popescu: do one iota of things that work, get iota^? worth of things that brand free!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in uncle al terminology, 'they proclaimed it was Bad Luck and carried on'
mircea_popescu: you know how "alt right" picked "soros" to be "the evil billionaire behind everything" ? do you suppose THAT is what prevents the "mainstream left" from identifying the evil billionaire behind their precious cuntlet losing the precious election and everything else ?
mircea_popescu: maybe i owe some thanks to these folk i don't even realise...
asciilifeform: as soon as the smarter folx in the enemy camp get the notion that there's somewhere to defect to -- game over
ckang: yea seems to depend if hes in a manic state or not
trinque: eh I don't buy the political terms for all this; that appears to be when his brain *is* working, instead of farting around in neurotic loops
mircea_popescu: trinque, let me tell you a story. so during napoleon era, for the first time "general army" was introduced, before that it was all profesisonal soldiery. huge humongous legions of draft dodgers, because really now, draft ? and napoleon standing for the "reasoning" "humanism" thingee of course introduced doctors to check whether medical claims were factual (most common amongst which, blindness).
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> you know how "alt right" picked "soros" to be "the evil billionaire behind everything" ? do you suppose THAT is what prevents the "mainstream left" from identifying the evil billionaire behind their precious cuntlet losing the precious election and everything else ? << "mainstream" left has as an anchor that "individual people can
lobbes: <BingoBoingo> [...] "dat signal's racist" << ayup. Pantsuit trains "autoimmune response" to specific signals, and causes all kinds of broken thinking. I posit that this is the root cause of things such as >> http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-06#784482
a111: Logged on 2014-08-06 00:42 mike_c: i have been in the newspaper multiple times, and i have been in trilema posts multiple times. one of these means more than the other, but I can only show my mother the newspaper clippings :)
a111: Logged on 2017-06-13 16:11 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc we had a thread even here where somebody whined that FG doesn't work as a 'totem' where you 'plug in and forget and it just becomes your /dev/random' and that it has to be actively ~used~
diana_coman: asciilifeform, in short: bridge gap until eulora's server migrates to eucrypt; not a solution to anything, nor a desired anything