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2017-8-18

asciilifeform: ACHTUNG panzers!! trb node 'zoolag' is back in business, this time as ordinary linux box -- syncing from 0 . same ip as prev.
shinohai: nice asciilifeform
mike_c: Birdman - are you using python 2 or 3? what does it say when you run "python --version"
mike_c: !!v Birdman
mike_c: !!up Birdman
deedbot: Birdman voiced for 30 minutes.
mike_c: all my outdated bot commands
mike_c: !!gettrust Birdman
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 2 by 2 connections.
Birdman: python 3.6 (32 bit) and if i run that it brings me to a command prompt pretty much
mike_c: ok. it's a syntax error because the script was written for python 2, not 3. easy to change though, hang on.
Birdman: ah ok ok ty
mircea_popescu: and to go with http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-10#1696456 : wikiprop dept has a chapter on spain, "economic recovery (2014-)". because totally.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-10 09:50 mircea_popescu: in other lulz : usg.wikipedia agitprop has an open ended article on propaganda truths : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_financial_crisis_%282014%E2%80%932017%29
mircea_popescu: the notion that spain has or could ever fucking recover...
mircea_popescu: http://68.media.tumblr.com/f06580c8ffcffc0ed52ca83472f54250/tumblr_nt56ou8mpS1uohfy9o1_500.gif << spain, for illustration purposes.
mike_c: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/Lq0de/?raw=true
mike_c: Birdman ^
Birdman: `much appreciation
Birdman: mike_c so it went through all these hands and says it processed ~30k of them, but what am i actually looking at here? the hands it lists in the prompt are the ones that the discrepency is found?
mike_c: the output is bad hands. it's comma separated - filename,hand#,player_that_is_not_in_summary
asciilifeform: !#s bannon
a111: 30 results for "bannon", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=bannon
mircea_popescu: did he get shot ?
mike_c: !!up Birdman
deedbot: Birdman voiced for 30 minutes.
mike_c: working for you? anything you want changed?
asciilifeform: 'After his ouster from the West Wing on Friday, ex-White House chief strategist Steve Bannon declared the Trump presidency that his brand of populist, right-wing conservatives helped make a reality is "over."'
mircea_popescu: aww
Birdman: so i went through and deleted all the tournaments cause those are not relevant, and i got seemingly different results. I think maybe its displaying less than all the hands it has found? i only saw four cash game hands the first time, deleted all the tournaments, and now i see a ton of cash game hands
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sacked
mircea_popescu: aha. in today's re-runs, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-26#1607670
a111: Logged on 2017-01-26 19:29 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes depends on how good a job bannon does.
Birdman: and if im not mistaken it lists the player who is missing in the summary and will list the same hand twice to show if another player was missing in same hand so that extra fat that could be trimmed but im not asking you to fine tune this or anything lol, thoughts on it maybe not showing all results for lack of space of something?
mircea_popescu: what do you mean lack of space.
mike_c: doubt it. how many hands does it say it processed?
mike_c: and how many did it say before you pulled the tournament files?
asciilifeform: the 1 quasi-earnest d00d -- sacked
Birdman: bit over 26k and before a bit under 30k, also i think this guy's hand history is amazingly fragmented in a ton of spots so im trying to get a more solid chunk of data to run it on
asciilifeform: served his purpose
Birdman: alot of these hands are missing the summary in general
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha, old man went in on a ticket of no-compromise, compromised errythang.
asciilifeform: just as was obvious to asciilifeform .
mircea_popescu: mno, what was obvious to asciilifeform was http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-22#1486759
a111: Logged on 2016-06-22 04:08 ascii_deadfiber: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-22#1486706 << clitler is the anointed muppet. as in, will be propped up with diebold voting machines if necessary.
asciilifeform: clitler reigns today.
Birdman: oh also what would i type to have it dump the output into some text file?
asciilifeform: ( may as well )
mircea_popescu: the obvious-to-alf show!
asciilifeform: berkeley: still open. climatola : in businesss. dept of shitcoinade - ditto
asciilifeform: what exactly differs observably from actual clitler reign?
mircea_popescu: i think this proves roosevelt is alive (might as well).
mircea_popescu: well depends observably for whom. what, you're going to compare events with alt-events-as-reasonably-imagined ?
mike_c: Processed hands: 297887
mike_c: Bad hands: 5013
mike_c: Processed files: 4612
asciilifeform: roosevelt жил, жив и будет жить!11!
asciilifeform brb
mircea_popescu: aanyway. teh us as mildly interesting as it ever was.
mike_c: seems like it's working to me :) here's without the player names: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/LsriU/?raw=true
Birdman: it seems to me that the bug im looking for is most likely to appear in hands processed that aren't sequential as the sequential ones are most likely entirely fragmented and the ones with only one player missing are the ones im most likely looking for
mircea_popescu: lol Birdman 's got a consultancy bidniss almost going ?
Birdman: not sequential, i mean the ones that repeat the hand number
mike_c: um, not following. but you're saying you want to see the ones that are only missing one player?
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/fifi-hamburguesas-bimbo/ << Trilema - Fifi, hamburguesas bimbo
Birdman: yeah something like that, trying to get it to filter out the corrupted hands from the hands with the bug im looking for
Birdman: but to be honest its probably good to have the corrupted hands to be able to request them from the server
mike_c: 4,412 of the 5,013 bad hands are only missing one player
Birdman: you only got ~5k bad hands? im getting 25k
mike_c: run the updated version I gave you and tell me all 3 numbers (processed, bad, files)
Birdman: ah ok one moment
Birdman: 262953 / 4914 / 3966 respectively, after i deleted all tournaments from the histories
mike_c: ok, so 4,914 bad hands
Birdman: which i did by searching through with "T1" cause tournaments all start with that and no cash games would
Birdman: yes
mike_c: well, seems like 80% of those are only going to be missing one player, so filtering by that won't help you
mike_c: give me an example of a hand you're *not* interested in.
mircea_popescu: and in other "baby's gonna have to learn sometime...", http://68.media.tumblr.com/3f2956963e5572ea4af56fcafa567c7d/tumblr_o0ok1jjuRA1uwe054o1_1280.jpg http://68.media.tumblr.com/be2d5b93f793c053e393e30b3562e5f5/tumblr_o0ok1jjuRA1uwe054o4_1280.jpg http://68.media.tumblr.com/5e67151689f0cc5f06068781b4b293cd/tumblr_o0ok1jjuRA1uwe054o9_1280.jpg an' http://68.media.tumblr.com/50517718fcf83d5ffa4d12bff44ce47f/tumblr_o0ok1jjuRA1uwe0
mircea_popescu: 54o10_1280.jpg
Birdman: ok so i suppose we could get rid of any that have the value "seat256" in the summary and any that are missing the summary in general
mike_c: excluding ones with no summary only cut 10%
mike_c: not sure what you mean by seat256, paste me an example
mike_c: !!up Birdman
deedbot: Birdman voiced for 30 minutes.
Birdman: seat 256 i mean, and http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/i3zev/?raw=true
mike_c: still 4,393 bad hands. down from 5,013. so doesn't cut out too many
Birdman: then may as well keep them
Birdman: well thank you this is crazy helpful!
mike_c: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/VWZcn/?raw=true
Birdman: any way for me to run this and have it spit out hand numbers it finds?
Birdman: rather, save it to a text file
mike_c: ^ excludes hands with no summary and hands with seat 256
mike_c: you just want it to spit out the hand numbers? sure.
Birdman: i meant to have it save results to a text file, how do i do that>
mike_c: well, if that's all you want just:
mike_c: "python hands2.py c:\directory > logfile.csv"
mike_c: or logfile.txt, or whatever
mike_c: oooh, goats shipped!
mike_c: thanks asciilifeform!
Birdman: and i type just that string after the rest at the same time? "whatever.py C:/handhistories python hands2.py c:\directory > logfile.txt" ?
mike_c: uh, no, like this:
mike_c: whatever.py c:\handhistories > logfile.txt
mike_c: sorry, mine is named hands2.py :)
Birdman: ah tyty
asciilifeform: in other lulz, http://fork.lol
asciilifeform: mike_c: np. sorry for the delay, i had to drive coupla hrs to the house where the stockpile lives.
mike_c: no worries.
asciilifeform: should be in your postbox mon. or tue.
mike_c: Birdman: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/qKB5Q/?raw=true
mike_c: last tweak
Birdman: whats this one do?
mike_c: run it like: whatever.py c:\handhistories -q
mike_c: and it will just spit out the hand numbers
Birdman: ah
mircea_popescu: ooo check that out, lol domains!
mike_c: hm, what happened in the last couple days? difficulty adjustment?
mircea_popescu: mike_c adjustment was on 9th.
mike_c: ok. so that chart is saying that a BCH is going for 0.15 BTC. which is about double reality afaict
mike_c: oh, hm, it did go up the last couple days. good time to sell!
mircea_popescu: iirc the imaginary number was always ~600 bux.
mircea_popescu: let me know if you manage to actually get anything for them, i've yet to meet someone who has.
mircea_popescu: also in the same news bulletin, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-16#1555809
a111: Logged on 2016-10-16 06:28 rarepepeforever: http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/pepe-cash/
mike_c: oh, yeah, I did.
mircea_popescu: o ?
mircea_popescu: wanna do that as a service ?
mike_c: yes
mircea_popescu: tell me ?
mike_c: well, now that I'm thinking about it, not sure how that would work as a service. Because I had to use some assumed virus ridden POS BCH wallet. So I swept out a BTC wallet, then imported the address keys into the assumed virus wallet for BCH
mike_c: that actually worked, and then I sold it.
mircea_popescu: and then you got bitcoin back out ?
mike_c: I did. I was dumbfounded.
mike_c: but you know, all I risked was some time.
mircea_popescu: so you would do it as "send me 1 btc, i will send back 1.1 btc depending on market"
mike_c: but I would need the keys to wherever that 1 btc was pre-fork
mircea_popescu: ah so it's "send me the keys to pre-fork addresses, and i'll return btc" ?
mike_c: right
mircea_popescu: "whether spent or not on main chain" ?
mike_c: and assume that virus ridden wallet will attempt to clean out that BTC address
mike_c: right, if it was moved post-fork, doesn't matter
mircea_popescu: well so this seems like it is a very credible service, makie a website
mircea_popescu: "send me your keys to SPENT btc addresses, i will send you back some btc"
mircea_popescu: free money website as it were.
mike_c: right
mircea_popescu: charge a coupla percents or w/e.
mike_c: this is a good idea. I'll have to see if I can make the process less manual.
mircea_popescu: in principle there's you know, 100mn dollars worth of free money sittibng on ground, if you get 1% of that you really don't need a job.
mircea_popescu: (of course in reality there isn't, but w/e, not the worst business idea i ever heard.)
mike_c: well, there's only as much money as the order book is deep
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: but the order book for average start-up is 0 deep.
mike_c: currently i could sell 500 BCH(bcc? whatever) for a bit over 50 btc. price has run up last couple of days.
mircea_popescu: bit of a time bomb, as i'm sure these will pop up. first mover advantage i guess.
mircea_popescu: anyway, cheap source of retweets/likes/wjhatever such social media crapital.
mike_c: well sure, but who gives a shit about social media. it doesn't have any btc.
mircea_popescu: (though traditionally the way "bitcoin doubler" scams work is that they pay off initially. and i don't expect this "bitcoin cash market" thing is anything else, however it may be interpreted by the retard crowd)
mircea_popescu: mike_c well, social media has tits. though usually of the useless variety.
mike_c: there's a decently deep book. takes 4500 BCH to get down to 6% right now.
mike_c: I don't think the market will last long enough for automated service to be worth it, but I'll turn the cranks if anyone wants me to clean out some spent keys.
mike_c: Reasonably manual process, so there would be a reasonable fee, but it's free money if you're not going to do it yourself.
mike_c: ping me if interested.
mircea_popescu: can you be specific ?
mike_c: Sure - given keys, I will sell BCH quickly - not too much regard for trying to optimize yield, without being entirely stupid about it. I'll keep.. 10% and give other party 90%. My fee will be minimum 0.5 btc and maximum 10 btc.
mircea_popescu: ic!
mike_c: so given spent address that used to have 50 btc, I sell the BCH, key owner gets free 4.5 btc. not too shabby.
mircea_popescu: provided owner can't be arsed to dih
mike_c: right. or hire someone else cheaper.
mike_c: http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/UCI_tickets.html
mike_c: is anybody working those? I'd be interested in contributing.
mircea_popescu: nobody specifically.
trinque: "standard bot" I published what, a year or so ago?
mike_c: published where?
mircea_popescu: true.
mircea_popescu: should i have said "everyone" ?
trinque: naw, just reading the thing.
trinque: mike_c: http://trinque.org/2016/08/11/logbot-genesis/
trinque: see the antecessor for something that doesn't have opinions re: db
mircea_popescu: a year ago precisely!
mike_c: nice, thanks.
trinque cranking moar on the paybot presently, and this weekend.
mike_c: oh, and for the common good, I used hitbtc.com to liquidate BCC. The interface is a piece of shit, I got multiple javascript errors throughout process, but bch went in, btc came out.
mircea_popescu: 6 confirms and errything ?
mike_c: far more by now.
mircea_popescu: cool.
trinque: dunno if I welcomed mike_c back, so, wb!
mike_c: I used this pile of shit for wallet - installed on VM, you should 100% assume this is a virus ridden piece of shit. http://www.electroncash.org/
mike_c: but it worked.
mike_c: thanks trinque!
mike_c: all in all it was an experience that felt like taking a shower in sewage.
mircea_popescu: when did they fork again, jun 25th was it ?
mike_c: dunno
mike_c: no, much later.
mike_c: maybe aug 1
mircea_popescu: pretty sure it was pre aug
mircea_popescu: hm maybe you're right, was aug 1st after all.
Birdman: hey mike_c is this a fun project for you or somethin? if you can be bothered theres some improvements i would ask for to narrow down what im looking for in that script, though im not trying to overstep any boundaries here.
mike_c: it's about bedtime for me. feel free to paste in a wish list. if it's quick I'll knock it out for you over the weekend.
Birdman: thank ya
Birdman: !~later tell mike_c http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/WyOfQ/?raw=true
jhvh1: Birdman: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: AHA, mike_c returns and already has a new gig
deedbot: http://trinque.org/2017/08/19/a-quiet-afternoon/ << trinque - A Quiet Afternoon
mircea_popescu: ahahaha check out undata!
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in perky tits and highschool parties, http://68.media.tumblr.com/cf594819917bbecc277724e4e324744c/tumblr_nyud24EYQS1v0jntgo1_1280.jpg
trinque: ah yeah, I'm equal parts proud and "kid, I'll finish you if we crash and I live"
trinque: he did great.
mircea_popescu: eh it doesn't look big enough to crash
trinque: thing squeaked like a motel bed
mircea_popescu: do they have 3 hour "love hotels" there ?
mircea_popescu: you should see those things.
trinque: ones where the rate's what, 40-50/day anyway
trinque: squeaky bed, that sorta indoor/outdoor carpet
mircea_popescu: bout 8-12 bux, something like that.
mircea_popescu: girl 20-30 extra.
trinque: probably had those here when http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-12#1554818
a111: Logged on 2016-10-12 01:57 mircea_popescu: back when their bulls weren't all mechanical yet.
trinque: tomorrow we've got Black Lives Matter (TM) marching past my apartment for, whatever it is they tweeted about last
trinque: did the pantsuit mayor last time, wasn't enough, now nigger mayor who will seriously review serious matters and things.
trinque: I have yet to decide whether being elsewhere, or watching the bullets fly will be more enjoyable.
mircea_popescu: hard call.

2017-8-18