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2018-4-12 | 2018-4-14

mod6: apologies. bouncer was bounced for meltdown updates.
mod6: shinohai: thanks for showing off new bot functions. don't test in here though. too hard to keep track of stuff as it is.
mod6: In fact, is there a webpage that details the functions of your bot linked from a !~help or whatever?
mod6: That's be a good idea.
mod6: Sounds like your plan is to keep the bot going, which is awesome. But if not, that's fine too -- just let us know so someone can be commissioned to build the same functionallity.
mod6: Moving on...
mod6: There was a question here for me... lemme see...
mod6: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-9#331822 << ok, so doing this from a file with the '-r' flag works best as far as you'll affirm, correct? (Did anyone look at my paste? Do others agree that I did this the way that is "ok"?)
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-12 13:59 danielpbarron: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-12#331449 << i didn't really get it to work. i got something that claimed to make it work, but it was unusably slow
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-12 03:36 mod6: just wondering if there is a way to just feed /dev/ttyUSB0 or something directly, continussly into /dev/random via rngd ; or if someone has tried this with success
shinohai: mod6: srry for the noise. bot will stay online, previous issues fixed
mod6: Thanks shinohai !
mod6: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-9#331839 << asciilifeform : Yup, I was just waaay confused about the whole thing. Just do what ben_vulpes says.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-12 15:14 ben_vulpes: hot spare is great
mod6: ok, i gotta do a quick few things. will be back for sure in just a bit.
lobbes: for pizarro shellists, I found this nifty guide on how to install postresql to /home dir (also dropping for archives) >> https://www.endpoint.com/blog/2013/06/12/installing-postgresql-without-root
lobbes: gonna test it out tonight
danielpbarron: mod6, i don't really know much about the right way to use a FG
danielpbarron: ben_vulpes, you may dick around
mod6: danielpbarron: fair enough.
mod6: asciilifeform has his hands full for the moment, but after biz-trip, we should try to settle this. im sure will be important not only to pizarro's customers, but s.nsa's alike.
mod6: also, when asciilifeform is back, we're gonna need to pay bills again.
mod6: back to the 'rngd' thing for a sec, I've got nothing really for or against this thing. i'm just trying to use it as not only it'll feed /dev/random, it'll flush ioctl with the RNDADDENTROPY flag -- we could write our own or whatever. All options are on the table at this point.
mod6: Looks like maybe we need to do the latter -- write our own. Did anyone notice that Jeff Garzik is one of the authors of this thing?
shinohai: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-13#332955 <<< interesting find mod6 ... was playing with bitbet code in basement, noticed this was running
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-13 01:26 mod6: back to the 'rngd' thing for a sec, I've got nothing really for or against this thing. i'm just trying to use it as not only it'll feed /dev/random, it'll flush ioctl with the RNDADDENTROPY flag -- we could write our own or whatever. All options are on the table at this point.
mod6: wb asciilifeform
mod6: you know what else in interesting, when i breezed super fast through the code last night (I need to review it more), i noticed that this thing has it's own copy of "ent" embedded inside.
asciilifeform: mod6: motherfucking ups batteries failed age test at 4 in the morning, haven't slept since
asciilifeform: mod6: what is this
mod6: asciilifeform: oh shit. ups alarms going on and off all night huh
mod6: the above is me looking at 'rngd' source, written by Jeff Garzik, which also apparently contains an embedded version of "ent"
mod6: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-13#332919 << continuation of original thread.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-13 00:10 mod6: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-9#331822 << ok, so doing this from a file with the '-r' flag works best as far as you'll affirm, correct? (Did anyone look at my paste? Do others agree that I did this the way that is "ok"?)
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-12 13:59 danielpbarron: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-12#331449 << i didn't really get it to work. i got something that claimed to make it work, but it was unusably slow
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-12 03:36 mod6: just wondering if there is a way to just feed /dev/ttyUSB0 or something directly, continussly into /dev/random via rngd ; or if someone has tried this with success
mod6: (goes on just a bit from there ^, it's short tho)
asciilifeform: mod6: i probably will not be able to speak for very long just nao, but perhaps put in the log : for what do you need a systemwide entropy-gathering thing ?
asciilifeform: is this simply to combine output of multiple FG ?
mod6: I read your comment yesterday -- I'm not sure that I do. What I'm after is away to continually generate random bytes and throw them at /dev/random. But maybe that's not the best way.
mod6: Well, what I mean is, directly may not be the best way -- perhaps, write them to file with FG, run (real) ent & dieharder, then feed them in with our own tool. meanwhile it's feeding, being creating new fg output file for tomorrow.
mod6: no, single fg.
mod6: multiple fg is certainly a consideration for those who have 2 in their chassis.
mod6: which, ya, is a "standard" step up for pizarro customers it seems.
mod6: don't worry, we don't need to talk about this now. i know you're under a deadline.
mod6: im just barking in the wind here.
mod6: as far as 'system-wide'..., you're referring to the method of feeding /dev/random ya? my box that I'm playing with this now, only has one user. and truly, I guess I don't care about /dev/random, what I care about is specific processes being able to get random bytes as needed.
mod6: trb, for instance.
mod6: and if it's not via /dev/random or whatever, we should document how to use FG with TRB so people can follow along.
mod6: We need like an admin cheat-sheet.
ben_vulpes: for what now?
mod6: lfor i in `seq 0 2`; do smartctl --all /dev/sda -d megaraid,$i >> smartctl_`date +%Y%m%d`.log; done
mod6: shit
mod6: this:
mod6: for i in `seq 0 2`; do smartctl --all /dev/sda -d megaraid,$i >> smartctl_`date +%Y%m%d`.log; done
mod6: which, to see behind the raidcontroller, we need.
mod6: command is a lot simpler if you just have 1 disk.
mod6: but in this case, we have 0, 1, 2
mod6: can be found with `smartctl --scan`
ben_vulpes: write a script
mod6: lol, I just did!
mod6 runs
ben_vulpes: heh great, what cheatsheet
mod6: anyway, ok, at least its in the logs now. mod6 looking for smartclt for raid? check here ^
mod6: goddamnit
mod6: smartctl for raid
mod6: too many things going on at once, srry.
jurov: has anyone tried replacing /dev/random with named pipe?
mod6: not that i know of.
ben_vulpes: not i
mod6: if you have, or can elaborate on that, please do
BingoBoingo just sort of cleaning and waiting for asciilifeform. And trying to not get mumps or let alf catch mumps... or as the locals call it "Brote de Paperas"
BingoBoingo: On the plus side it has been a couple weeks since the chinches de cama have bitten
mod6: maybe get 2 of those surgical masks
mod6: or, actually. get like 2 dozen.
BingoBoingo: I don't know that they can be had
BingoBoingo: But I did organize the floor of the cabinet
mod6: get a couple of bandanas
mod6: you guys can be like banditos.
BingoBoingo: Doing that might be one of the few things that makes foreigners interesting to the local police
mod6: im out of ideas.
mod6: hold your breath?
BingoBoingo: Wait for reddit bags?
mod6: now im out of ideas :D
hanbot: danielpbarron lobbes do your sites' links work yet?
hanbot: i was under impression apache + mod_rewrite stuff was done, is it still in a holding pattern?
ben_vulpes: i can turn mod_rewrite on for your site right now hanbot, danielpbarron's needed some fiddling with the htaccess before it'll stop throwing 500s but i bet you can fix your own
hanbot: ben_vulpes cool, ty --no need to get it done this second tho if it's on the assembly line and makes unneccessary work for you/inoordinately risks breaking something else
ben_vulpes: hanbot: cool thanks; i would appreciate a bit more runway, but mod_rewrite for all is the next item on my punchlist
hanbot: kk

2018-4-12 | 2018-4-14