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2018-4-11 | 2018-4-13

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: remind me plox, which of the 2 snsa boxen did you buy ?
asciilifeform: ( there were 2 equiv., 1 with 8 disk slots, 1 with 4 )
asciilifeform: and in which box do you want the 4 1TB ssd.
asciilifeform: ( the above ? or the 4th, which came in today )
ben_vulpes: bought http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-2-6#299650 and let's rack that one
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-02-06 00:39 asciilifeform: (1) 2.3GHz x 32core (Opteron 6376) RAM Installed: 256G RAM Max: 256G
ben_vulpes: the one that arrived today is a backup machine
ben_vulpes: vendor does not have a replacement 860 for the 650 that arrived, i just got off the phone with him, so it flies with you asciilifeform and we get a 40 dollar credit on it
ben_vulpes: you catch me just as i walk out, bbl
asciilifeform: the 8-bay ? ok
danielpbarron: ok now i'm running into this issue where if my post is too long, it won't save the draft or let me preview
mod6: qq: is anyone using (or reccommend using) rngd to collect the stream directly from a trng (fg) instead of a file?
mod6: I'm thinking about putting together a doc that maybe builds on top of danielpbarron's blog post re same.
Vexual: asciilifeform: "full src + .config will be on root part of every newly subscribed rockbox,"...
Vexual: ^can I take this to mean no benchtesting alfrock without a subscription?
asciilifeform: Vexual: i'ma put it up for download in near future; the expectation is, box being cheap, you'll want to get one and try in yer house before subscribing
asciilifeform: at least if you're intent on fucking with kernel
asciilifeform: given as there will be NO ipkvm service for rockchip boxen
asciilifeform: ( they require manual ssd-pulling and rewrite if you make it unbootable )
mod6: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/No1iu/?raw=true << so just reading the file does seem to increase the size of entropy available, as expected.
mod6: just wondering if there is a way to just feed /dev/ttyUSB0 or something directly, continussly into /dev/random via rngd ; or if someone has tried this with success
mod6: *continuously
mod6: otherwise, would best practice be, for instance, to create a new output file from `dd if=/dev/ttyUSB0 of=yyyymmdd.fg.bin` once per day, and then have a cron task load up /dev/random once a day?
mod6: <@ben_vulpes> vendor does not have a replacement 860 for the 650 that arrived, i just got off the phone with him, so it flies with you asciilifeform and we get a 40 dollar credit on it << ugh. wtf
ben_vulpes: pretty bad
mod6: what a bunch of dildos
mod6: so the 650 drive is for the back up machine?
ben_vulpes: it's the backup drive for the machine that we bought from s.nsa
ben_vulpes: 4 hot, one spare
mod6: ick.
ben_vulpes: well, make a proposal
mod6: sooo... are we fucked on this one then to? i.e. wont meet spec?
ben_vulpes: it's the same amount of ssd space as the previous one that s.mg was going to lease
mod6: <@asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: i highly disrecommend using slower ssd with faster ( you will get 'lowest common denom' ) << just wondering if this is going to be a problem for client
mod6: it'd be one thing if it was just the hot-spare box we're gonna hold for them, so we can get a replacement meanwhile & ship
ben_vulpes: mod6: for what it's worth we have 2 backup evos now, one 560 and one 550.
mod6: but if this one is going straight into the rack, we probably won't have the chance.
ben_vulpes: so if it soothes your jimmies at all, one disk in the two machines we own can go down without sacrificing performance.
mod6: We better alert s.mg about the config, let them know so they can advise whether ok, or not.
ben_vulpes: or just reserve the high performance disk for 'em
mod6: hmm, i must not be understanding something.
ben_vulpes: we have 2 spare disks. i'm proposing that we tag the 860 for the s.mg leased machine and the 850 for the shared hosting machine
mod6: oh, so the s.mg primary (to-be-racked) box will have five 1tb disks (Samsung 860s), and UY1 will get the 850 or is it a 650 (seems to be conflicting info from above)
mod6: ?
ben_vulpes: the former will have 4 1tb disks and a disk backup that matches spec, and uy1 will have an 850 ssd backup
ben_vulpes: was originally specced with 4 1tb drives, irrespective of number of bays available
mod6: oh, ok and these "backup" drives are not connected to the raid-array? they're just literally on-hand drives that sit outside of a machine, just in case we need 'em?
ben_vulpes: correct
mod6: OH.
mod6: Ok, that's what I was confused about. Just the term "backup" threw me a bit. Thought it was a spare in the array.
mod6: Thanks for setting me straight :]
ben_vulpes: anytime
ben_vulpes back into apache
mod6: cheers Sir.
mod6: danielpbarron, asciilifeform any thoughts on my rngd thing from above? am I even doing that right?
asciilifeform: mod6: i'ma look when i wake up, falling down nao
mod6: np sir. ttyl.
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: hanbot i'm going to take the webserver down tonight for a spell
ben_vulpes: hanbot danielpbarron: apache with mod_php is, sadly, much slower than the nginx setup we've had until now. however now we can move forward with getting your .htaccess files set up and uploads and such. i'm going to knock off for now but please let me know how i can support your mp-wp projects next.
ben_vulpes: kudos ofc to mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-12#331365 << ~850~
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-12 01:05 ben_vulpes: vendor does not have a replacement 860 for the 650 that arrived, i just got off the phone with him, so it flies with you asciilifeform and we get a 40 dollar credit on it
asciilifeform: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-12#331449 << talk to danielpbarron , iirc he got this to work. ( i generally do not like systemwide-rngism, for reasons discussed at length in #t logs . but you can do it. )
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-12 03:36 mod6: just wondering if there is a way to just feed /dev/ttyUSB0 or something directly, continussly into /dev/random via rngd ; or if someone has tried this with success
asciilifeform: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-12#331474 << is the other backup on-site ? or am i still expecting something in the postbox, ben_vulpes ? because right here in the pile, i have exactly 5 disks ( 4 x 860 , 1 x 850 )
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-12 03:54 ben_vulpes: mod6: for what it's worth we have 2 backup evos now, one 560 and one 550.
asciilifeform: and incidentally am i expecting anything in postbox ? or is all accounted for.
asciilifeform: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-12#331470 << waiwat
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-12 03:52 mod6: sooo... are we fucked on this one then to? i.e. wont meet spec?
asciilifeform: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-12#331485 << ben_vulpes the box that you purchased from my pile, has 8 bays, and i was indeed going to plug in the 5th as a ~hot~ spare. if this is not what you want, please say today.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-12 04:02 mod6: oh, ok and these "backup" drives are not connected to the raid-array? they're just literally on-hand drives that sit outside of a machine, just in case we need 'em?
asciilifeform: ( hot spare does not get any blocks written on it, until an array drive dies )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6 , plox to answer at yer earliest convenience, i blast off tomorrow afternoon
danielpbarron: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-12#331449 << i didn't really get it to work. i got something that claimed to make it work, but it was unusably slow
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-12 03:36 mod6: just wondering if there is a way to just feed /dev/ttyUSB0 or something directly, continussly into /dev/random via rngd ; or if someone has tried this with success
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've nothing else on delivery, no
ben_vulpes: hot spare is great
asciilifeform: ok
asciilifeform: possibly somebody was sending a msata disk ?
asciilifeform: ( lobbes ? )
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is there anything else you can think of to bring these machines online?
ben_vulpes: i wasn't aware of one, what was that for?
asciilifeform: the pcengines
asciilifeform: ( there is currently 1 pcengines in the cargo )
ben_vulpes: and that's incomplete without an msata drive?
asciilifeform: correct
ben_vulpes: anything to be done about it at this late date?
asciilifeform: not really
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-12#331810 << onsite, yes
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-12 13:24 asciilifeform: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-12#331474 << is the other backup on-site ? or am i still expecting something in the postbox, ben_vulpes ? because right here in the pile, i have exactly 5 disks ( 4 x 860 , 1 x 850 )
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-12 03:54 ben_vulpes: mod6: for what it's worth we have 2 backup evos now, one 560 and one 550.
ben_vulpes: i'm racking my head for any other last minute items you might need to get these machines together. got the raid card, snake for the drives, fgs...pcengines and rockchips...
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> not really << Is there a local retailer that may have msata drives?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: possible
asciilifeform: otherwise we'll slip it in a letter and mail it, cheap enuff
BingoBoingo: Also with the 850 vs 860 there is a 1 TB 860 in Uruguay, just put in in my hand to confirm that can be used as the S.MG hot spare. I recommend installing the 850 in position for transit (less objects for Aduanas to see) and then swapping them in country.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: all disks will travel in boxen
BingoBoingo: Aite
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> otherwise we'll slip it in a letter and mail it, cheap enuff << This has a substantial cost in time.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: sadly i cannot come up with a msata on a day's notice
BingoBoingo: It happens. Not a part one of the box stores carries?
asciilifeform: nope
danielpbarron: i'm not allowed to add files/folders to the root/apache group?
danielpbarron: also, did the apache switch happen?
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-12#331636 << i suppose i should explicitly say, "i cut over to apache, please let me know what novel problems you encounter with your www setups"
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-12 06:11 ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: hanbot i'm going to take the webserver down tonight for a spell
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: what precisely are you trying to do?
ben_vulpes: pff wrong log line here's the right one http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-12#331710
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-12 06:49 ben_vulpes: hanbot danielpbarron: apache with mod_php is, sadly, much slower than the nginx setup we've had until now. however now we can move forward with getting your .htaccess files set up and uploads and such. i'm going to knock off for now but please let me know how i can support your mp-wp projects next.
danielpbarron: oh, my permalinks still don't work
danielpbarron: does it have mod_rewrite?
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: lemme check, one sec
ben_vulpes: aand i find another amazing thing, that .htaccess format changed between 2.2 and 2.4
danielpbarron: webserver seems to be down
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: mod_rewrite is installed, but the 2.2 format for .htaccess files isn't supported by 2.4
ben_vulpes: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html for more information, i am digging
danielpbarron: would be nice if it would just use whatever format mp-wp auto-saves to .htaccess
ben_vulpes: heh oh i concur buddy
danielpbarron: speaking of which, what group do i need to add files to in oreder for the webserver to be allowed to write to them?
ben_vulpes: interesting thing is that trilema itself claims to run apache 4.4.16
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: i will find out and get back to you
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: do you mean for uploads?
danielpbarron: yeah that and also letting wp write .htaccess
danielpbarron: without having to set them 777
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: since i am an mp-wp noob, can you tell me where in the panel i edit .htaccess ?
danielpbarron: you don't, it'll just do it automatically when you save changes on the permalinks section of settings
danielpbarron: if it has write access
ben_vulpes: so it writes permalinks into .htaccess
danielpbarron: ya
ben_vulpes: or the permalink format
ben_vulpes: interdasting
ben_vulpes: ty danielpbarron i shall continue
ben_vulpes: not immediately, but shall.
ben_vulpes: (can you believe that i once swore off wordprexen?)
hanbot: danielpbarron ben_vulpes diff between 2.4 and 2.2 can be handled in .htaccess by using Require ip rather than the allow/deny bit --i had to fux with this on nfs a little. see https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/howto/access.html
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: if you give me permission to dick about in your homedir, i'll get your htaccess working when i pick this up
ben_vulpes: thanks hanbot
hanbot: i don't know why that'd be messing up permalinks tho ;/
ben_vulpes: well apache will barf if it sees Order/Allow
hanbot: ah okay
shinohai: !~qntra 2
jhvh1: shinohai: 2018-04-11T17:34:38+0000: Chinese Customs Agents Deny Entry To US Garbage <http://qntra.net/2018/04/chinese-customs-agents-deny-entry-to-us-garbage/> | 2018-04-10T17:07:16+0000: Labor Unrest In Germany Throws German Schedules Into Shambles <http://qntra.net/2018/04/labor-unrest-in-germany-throws-german-schedules-into-shambles/>
ben_vulpes: shinohai: nifty, but perhaps the denizens of #trilema'd be more interested
shinohai: was just testing in here dont have my key to !!up
ben_vulpes: be kind to my snr shinohai
shinohai: be kind?
BingoBoingo: In other news: MUMPS ADVISORY http://www.farmashop.com.uy/calidad-de-vida/comunicado-brote-de-paperas
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: vaccines vanished in uy also ?
asciilifeform: or is this achtung for americans strictly
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's a warning for the locals. The only vaccine they want me to get or show proof of is tetanus, so who the fuck knows with these creatures
BingoBoingo: During class with the Venezolana today she mentioned there were 3 or 4 cases in the cowork and THEN after class I finally get the advisory.
shinohai: !~blocks 500000
jhvh1: shinohai: (blocks takes no arguments) -- Get current block count.
shinohai: !~blocks
jhvh1: shinohai: 517917
asciilifeform: neato
shinohai: !~btcblocks
jhvh1: shinohai: Error: "btcblocks" is not a valid command.
shinohai: hmm i had one for mimisbrunner
shinohai: oh it broke because ben_vulpes changed the url
shinohai: !~btc.blocks.raw 44444
jhvh1: http://mimisbrunnr.cascadianhacker.com/blocks?height=44444&raw=true
shinohai: !~btc.blocks 67888
jhvh1: http://mimisbrunnr.cascadianhacker.com/blocks/67888

2018-4-11 | 2018-4-13