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2018-3-11 | 2018-3-13

BingoBoingo: <mod6> BB is going to look into it, but if it's not obvious, we'll wait for help. << Both nodes on the Trinque box appear to be on, diving back into the basement
mod6: mornin'
mod6: BingoBoingo: cool, thanks!
mod6: ben_vulpes!
mod6: oop. was scrolled up.
mod6: ignore ^, irssi got me
BingoBoingo: Alright, after modding the RAID cable, the 3com card sees the 4 SATA drives. Going to have to dive into how to convert that into an array
BingoBoingo: In other news, those RAID cables and that box are a POOR fit for each other physically. The rubber collar binding the cables together had to be removed along with a length of netting.
mod6: do the plugs fit into eachother properly tho?
mod6: i understand what you're kindof saying with the SFF-8087 and having to unbind the individual cables from the bundle.
mod6: they probably don't streach, or reach as far as they need to while bundled.
BingoBoingo: They do, We are however down one RAID cable due to connector failure. This leaves one cable installed and one cable spare.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> they probably don't streach, or reach as far as they need to while bundled. << They also are not trivial to unbundle
mod6: Well, glad we got three then.
BingoBoingo: Under the "rubber" (seems to be a heat shrink plastic) collar is an adhesive permeated strip of cloth
mod6: I had us get extras just in case, however, these are to be setup ahead of shipping/transport
mod6: mind taking a picture of this for the folks at home?
BingoBoingo: The box also does make a constant alarm tone
mod6 thinks that BingoBoingo is going to become a semi-pro photographer before this is all said and done. :]
mod6: oh?
BingoBoingo: <mod6> mind taking a picture of this for the folks at home? << Will do when I make the next trip there
mod6: now that doesn't sound good. does it have both power supplies plugged into mains and plugged into the mb?
BingoBoingo: It appears so.
mod6: Hmm.
mod6: This is the UY1 box right?
BingoBoingo: Yes
mod6: asciilifeform any thoughts on this ^
BingoBoingo: Me voy a comer algo
mod6: maybe it would alarm too if the disks arnt formatted or arn't plugged in correctly.
mod6: BingoBoingo: ok
mod6: I wonder if one of the power sups is bad.
mod6: Does the BIOS give any kind of reading on that? (Anyone know this?)
mod6: You'd think the bios would tell us what the alarm is for...
asciilifeform: mod6, BingoBoingo : this was discussed just prior to the flight. BingoBoingo must plug BOTH mains cords into a working socket
asciilifeform: or ps alarm will ring.
mod6: I asked that, he said:
mod6: (15:20) <@mod6> now that doesn't sound good. does it have both power supplies plugged into mains and plugged into the mb?
asciilifeform: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-3-1#309861
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-01 18:29 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ha! support got back to me: this machine wants power to both supplies
mod6: (15:21) <@BingoBoingo> It appears so.
asciilifeform: gotta see if both cords have 220v.
mod6: ah. how can this gentlemen test that?
asciilifeform: remove each, in turn, from its ps, and plug into another item that eats mains current
asciilifeform: this, or voltmeter.
mod6: voltmeter ~ multimeter ?
asciilifeform: aha
mod6: ok.
asciilifeform: other thing, BingoBoingo must see that each ps has been properly hammered into its hole
asciilifeform: (should snap with a click)
mod6: alright, gotta ensure it's properly seated. good deal.
mod6: what about the BIOS, is there any chance that it might read out what is alarming?
mod6: I guess I can have the man just dig in there.
mod6: thanks for the quick response asciilifeform
mod6: BingoBoingo: when you get back, let's walk you through getting the thing checked out.
trinque: if somebody wants to get me the IP addresses of my nodes, y'all can start billing me for service
trinque: I'll be out starting in a few hours, back later this afternoon
mod6: ok thanks trinque
mod6: It sounds like both nodes in the box are on:
BingoBoingo: <mod6> BingoBoingo: when you get back, let's walk you through getting the thing checked out. << I will check these things out with the power supplies again. Now what do I do with the Raid?
mod6: Well, let's deal with one thing at a time here... and I don't have the right answers for you about the raid questions.
mod6: If we can get the alarm off, then we can proceed on the rest of the configuration of things.
BingoBoingo: The 3COM card gets a little screen during the boot sequence. The card sees 4 drives, however the card prompts for no input at all.
ben_vulpes: morning
mod6: hey hey!
asciilifeform: heyheyheylbj
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what's the trigger to drop into the 3ware bios?
asciilifeform: ctrl-S on mine
asciilifeform: but tricky, gotta press at right time, when it is actually showing the raid rom hello
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: mash C-s during machine boot
mod6: mash-eet
BingoBoingo: Are they other possible combinations, this particular card may request?
ben_vulpes: and if that dun werk, get me some photos over whatsapp
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: would know, not me
mod6: i say, let's deal with the power sup problem first.
ben_vulpes: ah okay
mod6: that's #1
ben_vulpes rereads thread
mod6: take your time.
BingoBoingo: Alright, diving again
mod6: o7
ben_vulpes: first q BingoBoingo is do the power supplies have status lights and what do they read?
ben_vulpes: what did he mean by "dive", anyone know?
mod6: i am not sure, but i think he means he was heading back to the datacenter.
ben_vulpes: i would like this to not be a submarining expedition; gotta have comms down in the dc otherwise this is going to be exceedingly painful.
ben_vulpes: i'll wait for him to return.
mod6: (from his message, he went out to get lunch - was a message in spanish)
asciilifeform: iirc the dc is in the basement of a tower, whereas his console is somewhere near the top
mod6: agreed.
mod6: oh
mod6: i didn't know that, i think the office is somewhere down the street from the dc.
mod6: we need to get him a network drop in the rack so he can just irc while standing there.
ben_vulpes: there
ben_vulpes: as i understand the network topology, the man should be able to IRC from the hole.
ben_vulpes: but i'll wait for the next check-in to nail this down.
mod6: right, should be able to plug into the switch directly and go -- may have to set a static ip on his laptop, but yeah.
ben_vulpes: zactly. unrelatedly, i managed to not coffee-relapse on this trip.
mod6: speaking of which, i need a refill. bbs.
mod6: back
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> first q BingoBoingo is do the power supplies have status lights and what do they read? << They were one yellow and one green. Reseating them silenced the alarm and both are now green
ben_vulpes: mahvelous
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: are you in the dc now?
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> i would like this to not be a submarining expedition; gotta have comms down in the dc otherwise this is going to be exceedingly painful. << I will bring the terminal during the longer expeditions
BingoBoingo: I am not. I returned with news that ctrl+S does not appear to be the magic sequence on this card. Will paste the error message
mod6: <@ben_vulpes> mahvelous << yay!
asciilifeform: ugh, qntra down ?!
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo didja trip over a cord ?
BingoBoingo: Will check after I finish this RAID card paste
BingoBoingo: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/z0Q6C/?raw=true
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: does the 3ware bios need installing on the machine or card or ???
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: in ALL biosen you gotta disable the built-in raid. in SOME biosen you gotta also 'enable option rom'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo did mention 'it sees 4 drives', which suggests that the option rom is enabled
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: go and try key stroke alt-3 .
asciilifeform: for entering controller bios.
asciilifeform experimentally, on same revision of card as BingoBoingo is using, confirmed that indeed alt-3 is the magickey
ben_vulpes: aaah makes sense
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: please to take terminal to basement
mod6: thanks asciilifeform
BingoBoingo: Before I pack up the terminal for a journey to the basement, What is it I am going to be doing down there beyond hitting alt-3
ben_vulpes: turning those four disks into a raid array, logging into trinque's servers and seeing if they have connectivity to the net at large, logging into the foundation box and idem
BingoBoingo: I have no credentials with which to log into those boxes. I can verify booting all the way to the login prompt and no further
ben_vulpes: lol i know, i'll get you some
mod6: we'll get you the info
trinque: you just gotta intimidate it with your republican stare, and the thing will login out of fear.
mod6: lol
ben_vulpes: FaceID (tm) (r) (killmenow)
BingoBoingo: Alright, I have paperwork here to get together for the residency meeting tomorrow afternoon, and spanish class in a couple hours. Will be awaiting instructions and necessary information with which to carry out instructions.
ben_vulpes: ping when you're in the basement
ben_vulpes: oyee
BigTexasBingo: In the basement, no network atm on proper terminal here
ben_vulpes: didn't bring the wifi->ethernet box?
ben_vulpes: you can also static ip up somewhere in our range and run a cable from the switch, right?
BigTexasBingo: I don't know which IP addresses you are not trying to use for these machines
ben_vulpes: use 246
BigTexasBingo: Wrestling the thing into shape
ben_vulpes: cool
BigTexasBingo: And it isn't working
ben_vulpes: sucks; i guess you're stuck with mobileirc then?
ben_vulpes: i expect the same "isn't working" is going to show up on the foundation machine and also trinque's box
ben_vulpes: 'cause i'm not getting any packets back from the ip i bound the foundation machine to
mod6: right.
mod6: something is fubar with the routing. this is the new #1.
ben_vulpes: qntra is at least back up!
mod6: ah, ok, and we're all in the same subnet and using same switch?
mod6: or are there different vlan segments?
ben_vulpes: BigTexasBingo: reg a key with deedbot plz
ben_vulpes: or...how may i get you login password
BigTexasBingo: How about I get the raid set up and you try to put together a paste with information and instructions for the tbf and trinque machines
BigTexasBingo: Encrypt to my normal key.
ben_vulpes: sure
BigTexasBingo: Will deal with those two machines later.
ben_vulpes: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/oNV5n/?raw=true
BigTexasBingo: Can only think so much with this giant fan in my ear
mod6: Wonder if the Winn Dixie place has ear plugs
bingo_: And alt-3 is not looking like the key sequence
asciilifeform: bingo_: any suspicious messages during boot ? (e.g. 'boot rom disabled' in the lsi init screen ) ?
bingo_: Giving it another go
bingo_: At the setup screen
bingo_: What settings do we want?
bingo_: Alf?
mod6: stand by
asciilifeform: bingo_: from the fact that you just nao plugged in the card, i'll infer that there is no raid array set up yet
asciilifeform: you will want to create one
bingo_: Yes
asciilifeform: typically you add each of the 4 disks to it, and then 'create'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: iirc the customer specified a raid10 ?
ben_vulpes: correct
bingo_: Do I want the default settings with the RAID 10 or something else
asciilifeform: also i will add, tangentially, that i am hoping this to be the last time a machine is ever flown without first being properly assembled
asciilifeform: bingo_: default
bingo_: Ok, we have a RAID
asciilifeform: heyhey
asciilifeform: qntra seems to be unplugged again ?
bingo_: Online here.
bingo_: Coming up for air
asciilifeform: hmm looks to be back
mod6: hmm.
mod6: asciilifeform: maybe just some lag or was there an actual error message?
asciilifeform: mod6: nope, was a 'doesn't ping'
asciilifeform: to be fair , the cause could have been anywhere between the two hemispheres
mod6: *nod*
mod6: let's keep an eye on it
BingoBoingo: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-3-12#313722 << It appears the cord made it's way loose
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-12 18:17 asciilifeform: hmm looks to be back
asciilifeform: aah
asciilifeform: worx nao tho.
mod6: ah, good for checking on it.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-3-12#313713 << On that note is it possible to get a Gentoo Stage3 that's already GCC 4.9.4 based no-multilib?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-12 18:08 asciilifeform: also i will add, tangentially, that i am hoping this to be the last time a machine is ever flown without first being properly assembled
asciilifeform: is trinque around ?
trinque: very briefly, then gone for a few hrs
BingoBoingo: The amount of thinking that can be done in the hot aisle next to the cooling tower intake fan is ~0
trinque has a musltronic rootfs builder here http://trinque.org/2017/12/30/wip-cuntoo-installer/ , can pilfer parts or w/e as desired.
trinque: uses 4.9.4, bans various.
ben_vulpes: so BingoBoingo in theory you have a usb drive with a gentoo livedvd, you should be able to mount that and copy an expanded cuntoo.tar.gz to /home/gentoo/cuntoo , boot the new machine and then run ./install.sh against the raid device
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: has a kernel config for the supermicro mobo?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i do, though i did not expect to need to access it just nao, will have to uncrate and power up the box where it lives
ben_vulpes: mk then i think BingoBoingo next step is to figure out why the machines we have are not binding to the correct ips
ben_vulpes bbiab
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Aite, have a few hours a meat commitments, will dive again this evening to figure out the boxes that were nominally plug and play.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> so BingoBoingo in theory you have a usb drive with a gentoo livedvd, you should be able to mount that and copy an expanded cuntoo.tar.gz to /home/gentoo/cuntoo , boot the new machine and then run ./install.sh against the raid device << How does the expanded .tar.gz get onto the livedvd, etc. The box appears to only have two USB ports. One eats the keyboard.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: mount it on your laptop and expand the t.gz onto the usb drive
BingoBoingo: Aite, and when stan digs out the kernel configs, that will skip compiling the whole OS down to GCC5 and 4.9.4?
ben_vulpes: well let's ask the master of electronics, asciilifeform do we want to provision a customer machine with trinque's cuntoo wip?
ben_vulpes: a machine for rental to a customer, more accurately
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i have no objection
ben_vulpes: all righty then, that should be easy
mod6: diana_coman: so fyi here, no OS was ever installed on UY1 (s.mg) box, but now we're going to try this cuntoo, as suggested above. that sound ok?
diana_coman: mod6 uhm, I thought it was gentoo as per http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-2-24#308022 ?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-02-24 20:03 ben_vulpes: diana_coman: let me know what you want on this box at your leisure; current plan is a gcc 4.9 gentoo with the defacto republican standard ban flags and python 2.7
diana_coman: I'm confused
diana_coman: ben_vulpes, ?
diana_coman: if it's currently blank, it makes sense to me to go with trinque's cuntoo, sure
ben_vulpes: diana_coman: it is indeed currently blank, i did not have time to get the raid card installed before shipping out last week.
mod6: Thanks, glad to clear this up and get everyone on the same page.
diana_coman: thanks mod6 indeed
mod6: No problem! It's been hectic, so glad we can just keep up with what is what on these boxes.
mod6: Cuntoo should be easier to get gcc4 going, and I think that's part of the reason; don't have to gcc6->gcc5->gcc4.
mod6: Right guys?
diana_coman: so then I'll try meanwhile to get trinque's cuntoo on some machine of my own for now; any further /specific recipe that will be used ? (I'd like to replicate it as close as possible really)
mod6: Yeah, I think that's a solid plan.
mod6: diana_coman: trinque posted a link above, i think that's the right one.
mod6: bbs.
diana_coman: trinque, http://trinque.org/2017/12/30/wip-cuntoo-installer/comment-page-1/#comment-7
trinque: diana_coman: answered
trinque: glorious future strikes again
diana_coman: aha, so I guess I can just as well leave it to attempt with "r4"
trinque: oughta work. and I checked to see that the 4.9.4 ebuild is at least still there.
diana_coman: k, will do

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