asciilifeform: verisimilitude: do you intend to make own ? how will it differ from traditional ?
asciilifeform must bbl. verisimilitude if you write at length on the subj, i'ma read when get the chance.
verisimilitude: I'm still muddy with some details, concerning the TCP library, but that's due to my more general being green to Ada; I should also note I want to design similiar libraries for Common Lisp, so I'm designing libraries to work roughly the same in both languages.
verisimilitude: Clearly, for TCP, the client should have little or no difference from the client of the file system.
verisimilitude: As for the server, I'd prefer a ``connection generator'' approach, where you have a server object which provides the means for different tasks to get bidirectional streams representing a single connection that they then handle independently.
verisimilitude: I could go into more detail, but I similarly have other things I could be doing, so it can wait.
shinohai: Reading #trilema logs yesterday got me thinking would be worthwhile to pick up where esthlos left off on his vtron (add diff function, etc) though now wonder if exercise in futility, since apparently this is nothing more than kindergarten Strafbataillon, and any discussion of subj merely fodder for asciilifeform to kek over with MP. http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933448
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 14:00:11 asciilifeform: ( a surprisingly well-populated штрафбат . and asciilifeform makes an effort to read its log and reply 2-3x / daily )
asciilifeform: shinohai: picture, fella knocks on your door. 'behold, my great invention' you : 'but this is bicicle' him : 'i am well aware of bicycles!' you : 'this looks exactly like the bike i had when i was 11, but with odd protrusions' him : 'no!! it has radar-absorbing paint ! and can drop chaff against surface-to-air rockets' you : '...'
mats: taipei is amazing, had a five course meal at xiang duck for two, ~45usd
mats: equiv in sf or boston would be 200+, with mildly above average service, gratuity, and surly waitstaff
asciilifeform: mats: i had very similar experience on erry single trip out of usa to anywhere.
mats: the staff were so attentive it actually made me a little uncomfortable, noticed every single little detail - timely refills, removing plates, listening carefully, not bringing the check to the table until requested, not making me wait
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-25 18:53:47 asciilifeform: diana_coman: to add a few brush strokes to the picture of usa -- and perhaps already you knew -- 1) most folx get ~0 'vacation'. they nominally get '2 wks' but is reserved in practice for illness ; 2) are paid just enuff to stay alive (and locate themselves within vicinity of the mines) , 2-3 missed weeks of pay means destitution .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-19 05:23:36 mircea_popescu: speaking of which, an' considering we're apparently stuck with a buncha [https://archive.is/0yRis][chris]es over here : any of your resident knights capable of registering a chan on ~any other network~ and writing the bridge code on top of extant bot already ?
shinohai: zncbot has taken up most of free time of late, I didn't exoect Summer to be so unseasonably warm here this late in September. Girls still want to drag me out here to lake or some odd place every day.
snsabot: Logged on 2016-10-04 14:41:09 kmalkki: note that RtmPubSigned.key[0x14..0x23] == AmdPubKey.bin[0x04..0x13]
asciilifeform: the older one, someone recently made progress in reversing the microcode (which loads w/out any cryptotrap), but i haven't the link handy
asciilifeform: the classic opterons included 0 oddball on-die periphs (nics, remote managers, etc) unlike the newer, and have published init code. so hard to picture of what would consist an effective mine in'em
asciilifeform: could, i suppose, contain a 'magic instruction' that goes from ring3 to 0, but all cpu are 'guilty until proven innocent' of containing this, and besides, process isolation on linux is rubbish anyway
dllud: Thanks for the links! Have you seen similar research for the POWER chips? Any idea of the peripherals baked into them?
asciilifeform: dllud: that's the thing, nobody seems to have any idea , given as they cost weight in gold
asciilifeform: vivisection required supply of reasonably-inexpensive burnable units, unless yer truly loaded
asciilifeform: ( and if yer loaded, for coupla 10 k $ you can have own cpu baked )
dllud: As for the passive cooling. Your requirements are just too high (8 SSDs, 2nd CPU, etc.), ahahha.
dllud: Damn, have you ever thought about doing it the other way around?
dllud: I.e. grabbing an old power transformer from the scrapyard, strip it's guts out, and machine some copper blocks to connect the CPUs to the transformer's outer layers?
asciilifeform: dllud: experimented with similar. problem with oil submersion is that no pc mobo is designed for it -- track impedance changes, and capacitors dissolve
asciilifeform: not to mention that yer fucked if you ever want to swap a part
asciilifeform: ... whereas if you don't submerge, but run heat pipes, box will die under load, all kinds of parts (e.g. voltage regulators) presume ~some~ airflow
dllud: ohhh, that's what I was thinking about, solid copper blocks as heat pipe connecting to the ex-transformer shell.
dllud: Didn't think about all those tiny components besides the CPU.
dllud: Yup. And now I can see why you are into a dead end about the cooling. But couldn't you ditch the "radio shielded" requirement, and build a box with some holes that give you enough airflow for the voltage regulator, plus heatpipes for CPU, GPU (and RAM?)
asciilifeform: hypothetically, a pc mobo designed for classic opterons, w/ a heavy aluminum ground layer , designed to be sat down on top of a 1x1metre hedgehog, would do the job. but of course dun exist presently.
asciilifeform: dllud: the 'heatpipes for x,y,z, some airflow' box is actually pictured in the article we're discussing.
dllud: Because people like me hop too frequently from place to place during the work day to ever consider buying a desktop. A laptop with okish performance is a blessing. You can compile lots of stuff in situ, and only leave the really heavy duty jobs for your server (whenever you can sit in a place a good enough/cheap enough internet connection).
dllud: With an ARM-based laptop I would need an always on, low latency, large bandwidth connection. That's something that does not exist yet. (Perhaps 5G or Starlink?)
asciilifeform: dllud: the rk3328 actually performs very (by my standards) decently. (e.g. gcc compiles at roughly 1/2 the speed of my desktop)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-21 00:41:39 dllud: If, as it appears, that these benchmarks exacerbate the difference when compared to the real task of compiling stuff, then this RK3399 should be good enough for a laptop.
snsabot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 37d 2h 6m
whaack: asciilifeform: following from http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-23#1003544 I am considering submitting to training under diana_coman, but before I pulled the trigger I thought I should stop here and ask if you feel it would be wiser for me to submit to training under you. Is this something you are interested in, and if so what would be required of me for you to take me?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-23 10:51:45 diana_coman: whaack: so ask them directly, why not ask? fwiw yes, I would send you to someone else if I think it's a better fit but I don't know if "transfer" is the word for it; for one thing, you're not a package to just transfer; for the other, you can't and shouldn't eschew choice; see http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/08/fog-of-war/#comment-43
asciilifeform: whaack: i can't answer this w/out knowing ~something~ about your interests
whaack: asciilifeform: Okay, I think that itself deserves a blog post. The short answer is: programming (i have enjoyed going through SICP quite a bit, although its on hold, I want to learn how to program faster to eat through lots of saltmine work quickly), cryptography (i want to have trb "fit in head"), learning 2nd language (Spanish) , playing the guitar
asciilifeform: whaack: to learn how to work fast and 'with system', imho you oughta ask to study under diana_coman
asciilifeform: languages -- best learned by living with people who know'em
asciilifeform: cryptography -- eat the ffa series; ( diana_coman btw is an escaped mathematician and has eaten the whole thing , can prolly answer q's re subj as well as asciilifeform can)
asciilifeform: whaack: so far loox to me like diana_coman is best fit for you to study under. see whether will agree. but yer welcome to ask q's here as you do homeworks , i will try to answer'em as time permits.
asciilifeform: whaack: i still recommend to write that blog post -- it does wonders for putting contents of your head in order
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-31 15:35:09 asciilifeform: ( apropos of subj -- it is interesting to consider why 'tiananmen wank' is a thing in cn. the not-so-seekrit answer is that open discussion of subj would indeed cost the crowned heads their necks -- but ~not~ for 'ohnoez, killing protesters' -- but instead ~for having left any alive~. their 'grievances' included e.g. 'how dare pekin permit sons of peasants to enter university' . )
mats: unrelatedly, i think an important detail that often goes unmentioned in reporting, is that until very recently the chinese diaspora has been overwhelmingly canto
asciilifeform: mats: next thing we know, mtgox also returns . imho not very interesting.
asciilifeform: i'd have imagined that old, thoroughly-burned brands will not reappear as honeypots, but then again i perhaps underestimate the sheer depth of idiocy of the homo-redditus target clientele.
asciilifeform: mats: i unfortunately do not know cn, and ~errything i know on the subj consists of what has been translated to ru ( the english folx are worse than no source at all, they're entirely echo chamber of organized disinfo ) , so asciilifeform cannot be considered any kind of authority on the subj.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-24 05:44:04 mats: unrelatedly, i think an important detail that often goes unmentioned in reporting, is that until very recently the chinese diaspora has been overwhelmingly canto
lobbes would read a mats blog series on the subj. fwiw
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 08:34:02 phf: asciilifeform: i'll genesis you the logger in the next two weeks. i'd rather you not waste time on it though. the design predates castles, so making it multichannel might be excessive amount of work. it's idiosyncratic, a product of the conversations from four years ago. your current approach seems a lot more solid.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 13:02:45 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926776 << i can't speak for erryone, but, in case wasn't clear, asciilifeform spends HOUR+ (and sometimes several h) erry single day of the week reading coad at btcbase/patches ! it is quite essential tool , fully 20-30% boost of brain to asciilifeform . that being said, would be imho a++ if you found how to make it eat patches/sigs through a www-based hop
mats: the party has been busy consolidating official usage of mandarin, and today in hk you are way more likely to communicate or get service if you use it first instead of mandarin, at least that was my experience there earlier this year
mats: although the locals love it when you do use canto
mats: somewhat unrelatedly, my grandmother still occasionally takes the bus in santa clara and she tells me that usually nobody speaks english, and touted this as 'well trump sucks but hes not totally wrong ...'
mats: i'm not an authority on the subject either, just another overseas chinese american , but i did happen to grow up speaking a bit of canto and mandarin at home
mats: some of my people were in hk and others left nanjing with the kmt, in 1949
mats: nobody learns to r/w in traditional chinese anymore, except some rare holdouts in tw i heard about but didn't meet, i expect cantonese is on its way out and will be irrelevant in 100 years
mats: but in the present day its still common, i have bumped into random vietnamese, mexican, thai people that know canto for whatever reason
mats: history is bittersweet for people my grandparents age, first having the japs force them from their lands, then communists forcing them from their country after having starved and fought to push out the japs, then settling in a white man's country
mats: jp as little brother in the 21st century relationship with cn hardly salves the wound, my grandmother still adamantly refuses to go to jp restaurants or own anything made there
mats: i admit tokyo is really nice, very clean and hygienic, i don't know what it is about the humidity and construction materials used in taipei and hk but it makes all the buildings look fucking run down
mats: i'm back in usa, haven't settled outside yet. need a job in tw/hk to do that
mats: when i have something concrete to report it'll go into #t
snsabot: (trilema) 2019-09-27 asciilifeform: !q seen mp_en_viaje
bvt: asciilifeform: i'm not expert wwwist and logotronist, so will drop a question here: will something like http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-26?1931343 work? if day mismatches the expected, can redirect to log/chan/day or log/chan/correct-day?id ; the drawback is that scrolling to the selected post would need to be done with js
asciilifeform: bvt: you gotta have the anchor, or can't insta-scroll to the line !