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2018-12-31

shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-02#1883859 <<< Back when I was tasked with obtaining the Eulora cloaks, I used plain http connection here and my cloak worked until I shed it. They may have changed this?
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-05#1884846 <<< I'm going to be tinkering about with these (and learning some verilog) in coming weeks/months. What list of items are you wanting to test on these?
asciilifeform: ohai shinohai
asciilifeform: i recommend to do some basic verilog exercises , to get the hang of logic design, before you try an' take a bite out of large open problems
asciilifeform: ( e.g. get the toolchain going, can't speak for other folx but it took me a rather long time ), see if you can port fg.v to it, try a toggle button as entropy source, write nifty blog article...
asciilifeform: start with a serial uart that prints helloworld; or with a sad bitcoin miner ( as asciilifeform did ) ; or use yer imagination.
asciilifeform: whoknows: you might find out that you ~like~ logic design
shinohai: That's what I am mostly interested in, using it for operations such as fg or ecdsa
asciilifeform: ice40 is quite certainly too small for ecdsa, but the 'giant' chip might not be
asciilifeform: you gotta 'learn walk before running' tho imho.
shinohai: Quite.
asciilifeform: get pong p. chu's schoolb00k re verilog.
shinohai: ebuilds for cuntoo have occupied most of my time lately, though I shant release them or blog about them. Pretty boring stuff and I'm sure no one in tmsr cares anyway.
asciilifeform: https://www.fpga4fun.com also good resource.
asciilifeform: shinohai: what to post, and what not to, is entirely uptoyou
shinohai: lol I have fpga4fun open in another tab xD
asciilifeform: there's a giani rodari poem about a girl who 'sing me a song just for me, not for others'
asciilifeform: this is entirely ok.
asciilifeform: i've tried it both ways. and found out that i like , sometimes, working with other people on things.
shinohai: I like working with other folx too, but don't need all the extra baggage that comes with being a mp vassal.
asciilifeform: shinohai: fwiw i read your www, and find it interesting on occasion. if you post coad, i'ma test.
asciilifeform: shinohai: it is entirely up to you to find what people, if any , you like to work with.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform, for instance, did his thing mostly alone, 2007-2013. lived.
asciilifeform: there's obvious down sides to going alone, but you already know what they are, i shan't describe'em.
shinohai: Thanks for reading. I'm rather surprised at the sheer number of visitors and write-ins I get for my crap.
shinohai: (Would love to return writing for Qntra, but won't for obvious reasons)
asciilifeform: again i wont say 'do' or 'do not'. erry fella must find by himself people he can live with without tearing own hair out.
asciilifeform: personally i found that i built much moar ( and moar interesting ) things with mp, than when without . we overlap maybe 5% in what we're interested in, but i enjoy baking the 5% together. again cannot speak for shinohai .
shinohai: I very much enjoyed working with MP when he isn't being disingenuous .... which happens more than people like to admit.
asciilifeform: shinohai: if yer looking for a brain exercise, on top of verilogism , try an' fit ffa into yer head ( i expect it'd take a few wks )
asciilifeform: it aint that big.
asciilifeform: i fixed, btw, the comment box on my www, you can leave nitpicks there ( and sigs, if you actually eat the chapters and ready to sign )
shinohai: Neat! I am actually planning on using ffa to replace calc on own bot (which right now uses perl thing). I never could get it working right with plain lisp.
asciilifeform: as of ch14, thing actually beats mpi ( http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2906 ) on speed.
asciilifeform: i gotta go back to meat work shortly, but will round off thread -- asciilifeform is prolly not best man to tell shinohai how to live, i only ever had opposite problem ( much to do, but very little time ) from shinohai's ( much time, what-do )
asciilifeform: shinohai near as i can tell is actually a more mp-like fella than i am
asciilifeform: so i'm at least a little surprised that the 2 dun get along moar
shinohai: opposites attract, simple physical law no? Like forces repel one another ....
asciilifeform: perhaps
asciilifeform: i gotta bbl. but remember , if you dun post things, no one can throw tomatoes, but also no one can clap, and no one can use, best you can achieve is that archaeologists find yer stuff, like i found bolix. i recommend to post things.
shinohai: Well it took me a long time to find a suitable blog-o-tron. I loathe wordpress, and sure thats another mark against me because I prefer to blog using vim, sed, awk as opposed to mp-webshit.
shinohai: But, as always, a pleasure asciilifeform .... be well!
asciilifeform: ty shinohai , to you as well.
adlai: shinohai: the simple physical law is slightly more complicated, but not much: there are no intrinsic properties of free matter, rather, all manifestations are in fact measures of the mutual dynamical coupling within a larger material system, assumed to reach the eventual closure provided by reference-frame invariance. (phrasing cribbed from Mendel Sachs)
shinohai: Yeah I did try to oversimplify it a bit.
adlai also skipped Sachs's "Axiom 3", considering it roughly as glib as the academic joke wherein "the first rule of thermodynamics is that one does not dispute thermodynamics"
diana_coman: shinohai> (Would love to return writing for Qntra, but won't for obvious reasons) -> what are those? I can't see them.
mats: http://logs.bvulpes.com/asciilifeform?d=2019-1-5#449710 << i think i found this with google, https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Julio_Fajardo/post/Anybody_having_manual_for_Xilinx_ISE_with_Spartan_3E_board/attachment/59d61f8279197b807797df4e/AS%3A284997735993344%401444960163604/download/FPGA+Prototyping+By+Verilog+Examples.pdf
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2019-01-05 17:58 asciilifeform: get pong p. chu's schoolb00k re verilog.
shinohai: diana_coman ( what are those? I can't see them. ) well http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-03#1869075 is a barrier
shinohai: mats, ty for http://logs.bvulpes.com/asciilifeform?d=2019-1-7#449751
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2019-01-05 20:09 mats: http://logs.bvulpes.com/asciilifeform?d=2019-1-5#449710 << i think i found this with google, https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Julio_Fajardo/post/Anybody_having_manual_for_Xilinx_ISE_with_Spartan_3E_board/attachment/59d61f8279197b807797df4e/AS%3A284997735993344%401444960163604/download/FPGA+Prototyping+By+Verilog+Examples.pdf
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2019-01-05 17:58 asciilifeform: get pong p. chu's schoolb00k re verilog.
shinohai: In other timewasting activities while cleaning up the attic this weekend: https://eprint.iacr.org/2013/736.pdf
shinohai: for diana_coman 's perusal: http://btcinfo.sdf.org/blog/building-the-eulora-client-with-gentoo.html
diana_coman: that doesn't look bad shinohai ; how's the graphics looking when you run it? the bullet thing you dropped is meant to be related to collision detection iirc,hence my q
shinohai: gm diana_coman ... so far I notice no anomalies aside from distant objects rendering as mesh until you approach them.
shinohai: I might need to install libpng I think I forgot that.
diana_coman: not bad
shinohai: the client for some reason seems way more responsive, this is my first time connecting since move to pizarro
diana_coman: sounds like a LOT of changes there to be able to say much on that though
shinohai: http://btcinfo.sdf.org/blog/media/img/euloraclienttown.jpg
shinohai: asciilifeform: it all makes sense now - I knew there could have been *no fucking way* that you would have left vulnerable bash in place on that server (if you recall our conversation on why lobbes thought an entire horde of mindless bots took down his blog for 2 weeks straight :) )
asciilifeform: shinohai: if i understand the implication, i recommend that you repeat it to his face in #t, rather than here
asciilifeform: i am not in the biz of 'mean girls'(tm)(r)
shinohai: I'm not either really. Just thought it puzzler that this one particular box had such rough edges when poking about.
asciilifeform: shinohai: atm i dun have any reason to point finger at subscribers, or for that matter any other substantial lead.
asciilifeform: but would like to highlight the general principle, if yer gonna call someone an idjit, do it to his face
asciilifeform: ... and in the proper forum
asciilifeform: otherwise risk reverting to kindergarten.
shinohai: The great part is I don't have to, one just simply read the logs.
shinohai: Anywho, lunchtime with the ladies bbiab
shinohai: For asciilifeform: In yet-another-faux-phuctor news: http://archive.is/aLnd0

2018-12-31