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2019-9-30

shinohai: hilarity, $143k is practically nothing http://archive.is/c0dWP
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2019-09-27#1000568 << ty PeterL, i'ma move it when i get the chance
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-27 15:38:44 PeterL: asciilifeform: http://loper-os.nfshost.com/pub/ffa/hypertext/ch19/ line 101 you could move the declare block above the begin, save one nesting level (kinda cosmetic, so I don't know if you want to change it?)
asciilifeform: !q uptime
snsabot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 0d 8h 4m
mp_en_viaje: keks, came to admire the http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939873
snsabot: (trilema) 2019-10-03 asciilifeform: lobbes: if you want to emphasize that it's a mp-endorsed castle, put the deed in the chan subjline like in #a.
mp_en_viaje: good luck goodfolk!
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-10-04#1940194 <<< maybe late to party, since you kicked the idlers ... but remember even w/ cloak users like those can /monitor <nick> and get you real ip no problem.
asciilifeform: probably
asciilifeform: as well as the other chans.
asciilifeform: shinohai: was moar curious to see whether they'd come back.
shinohai: Well they won't come back with +b, neh?
asciilifeform: come back from elsewhere/renicked, presumably.
asciilifeform: but yes, not deeply interesting.
shinohai user@usg.pro has joined #asciilifeform >.<
asciilifeform: lol
shinohai: Was wondering is this annoyance related to why I kept failing to d/l rockchip kernel from ur site yesterday?
asciilifeform: almost certainly why
shinohai: Tried twice, failed both times. :/
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log , http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log , alive, can follow the story if you like shinohai
shinohai: kk thx, I was using btcbase in meridian since I failed to reach nosuchlabs or ossasepia.
bvt: just ftr, this was my idea re disconnect detector http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=sdmr ; i think there is no need in it with your mechanism in place
asciilifeform: bvt: the above is completely wrong. socket.timeout happens ALL THE TIME
asciilifeform: because it is how i get away with using a blocking socket at all, it times out regularly to no ill effect
asciilifeform: specifically did this, to make the bot unhangable
bvt: yes, but as long as freenode responds in time (has 30 secs for it), everything is fine
asciilifeform: bvt: possibly worx. but i'ma 1st try with mine.
bvt: the idea is to try sending a message (ping works), if send throws, connection is broken; if freenode can't respond, other node may work better
asciilifeform: bvt: absofuckinglutely NO asynchronous sends.
asciilifeform: this is how the old cl bot sucked.
bvt: it's definitely not async, but it guess i'd have to find the thread where cl bot was discussed to see what the issue was
asciilifeform: issue was that ANY sends by bot other than 1-to-1 to received, creates race condition.
bvt: it would be very useful to keep a strace of bot's irc front, hard to understand what is going on otherwise
asciilifeform: bvt: enable irc_debug
asciilifeform: then will get all the trace you can eat
bvt: not the same thing, but perhaps usable for the purpose; i don't like being separated by python's layers of abstraction from what actually happened.
asciilifeform: bvt: tcpdump/wireshark then
bvt: yes, that works
asciilifeform: !q uptime
baitbot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 0d 2h 8m
asciilifeform: !q uptime
baitbot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 0d 10h 50m
snsabot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 0d 10h 55m
shinohai: morning asciilifeform ... trying the rockchip fs download again, hope it won't cause issues on your end :p
asciilifeform: shinohai: oughta work
shinohai: 6hrs, 10 min left xD
shinohai: rockchip fs d/l finally complete \o/
shinohai: will mirror so don't have to worry about *that* again
asciilifeform: shinohai: i didn't think this needed elaboration, but i dun mind if people download the downloads. it's why i put'em up.
shinohai: Of course not, just wanted to have available on own site also since I now have the hardware and all.
asciilifeform: !q uptime
baitbot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 0d 23h 39m
snsabot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 0d 0h 23m
shinohai: I gotta thank you guys for giving me my best blog title of year: "Persistent Packeting Problems Plague Pizarro"
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-10-07#1941351 <<< this is some serious ineptitude.
asciilifeform: plz to use 1 of the working echoing loggers shinohai
asciilifeform: e.g. http://logs.ericbenevides.com/ , http://logs.ossasepia.com
shinohai: Gotta add to my link list, was using yours until this brouhaha.
shinohai: I did manage to get rk running here, nice little machine and look forward to tinkering with it more.
shinohai: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942735 <<< Sure, I have ~100% free time, unlike those chained to salt mines for their sustenance, though last time I checked my presence in TMSR was entirely unwanted. These days I spend time squeezing shitcoin lemons and producing BTC.
ossabot: (trilema) 2019-10-08 asciilifeform: which is why when i encounter a fella like shinohai, who has 100% of his time, it boggles my mind that he hasn't built a thermonuclear dirigible simply as a side effect of basic fucking metabolism
asciilifeform: shinohai: outta curiosity, for what do you want btc ?
shinohai: Well it certainly helps lube online business, otherwise just nice to have hoarded away as part of war chest, if necessary.
asciilifeform: shinohai: if not seekrit -- what sorta business ?
shinohai: Can buy hardware with it for lab, buy server time, things like that.
shinohai: Pay websluts to do things.
asciilifeform [http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942060][doesn't like to spend coin] but i suppose to each, his own.
ericbot: (trilema) 2019-10-08 asciilifeform: point being, in asciilifeform's eyes only makes sense to spend personal coinz if can buy it back ~immediately at same or better price. which is difficult to do.
shinohai: Well if I can purchase an item or service in another manner, I prefer to do so by other means. But BTC is certainly the currency that talks everywhere, worldwide.
shinohai: Want Fentanyl shipped to those loud neighbours from some guy in China? BTC will do it!
danielpbarron: asciilifeform, if it pleases you, I can be persuaded to look into data centers in Tulsa, Oklahoma. It is a little over an hour drive from my location.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: wb and ty. but if we do usa, we'll prolly want to do it where asciilifeform or e.g. trinque can easily pay visits to it
danielpbarron: okay. Figured I'd mention it anyway. Looking forward to service returning.
asciilifeform: ty danielpbarron .
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: seems that at least for a while, it'll be 'erry man for himself' re machines .
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: we were [http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1941968]['3 smoking from same match'] and paid for it.
ericbot: (trilema) 2019-10-08 asciilifeform: '3 smoking from same match'
asciilifeform: what've you been up to , danielpbarron ? where adventured ?
danielpbarron: this year I've been on a week+ long camping trip hiking up a Colorado mountain with fellow church goers, picketed the Harvest Crusade (a false Christian event hosted at Angel Stadium in California) with Darwin Fish, and visited my old home of Connecticut to attend my brother's wedding as the best man.
shinohai: oh hai danielpbarron ... nice to see ya
danielpbarron: hi shinohai, how are you?
shinohai: Not bad here, thanks. Hot summer but wine, women, and song.
shinohai: What a #trilema log this morning. asciilifeform is in top form!
shinohai: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943699 <<< Now *this* is something that might inspire me to build thermonuclear dirigible.
ossabot: (trilema) 2019-10-09 asciilifeform: i suspect that mp_en_viaje will yet have occasion to say 'thank you' to asciilifeform for having 'wasted time' discovering how to undetectably and reliably shortwave.
asciilifeform: !!up baitbot
asciilifeform: err
asciilifeform: !q uptime
baitbot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 6d 22h 57m
shinohai: `///
PeterL: asciilifeform: you said you can't convert BTC to USD, I could help with the conversion (I have an account at $heathen-exchange), within the US it should even be cheaper than sending USD to bingoboingo
asciilifeform: PeterL: ty, but atm this is not pressing problem
PeterL: ok, just wanted to make sure you had thought of all possibilities.
adlai: in other mildly-correlated lulz: a plausibly-human HTTP client found mind:step via ... btcbase, of all the possible referrers!
adlai will know that end times are truly nigh when one of the newer logotrons gets blamed as a referrer
PeterL: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-17#1946126 << RE price, you could run your own auction?
ossabot: (trilema) 2019-10-17 asciilifeform: presently puzzling over where to get exchange rate for pricing; prolly will have to lift from BingoBoingo's auctions, for so long as they're happening with reasonable regularity .
asciilifeform: PeterL: i dun intend to sell the coin.
PeterL: you could do a buy the coin auction instead?
PeterL: or do both and take the average?
asciilifeform: PeterL: well i'm 'buying' by running rack, neh.
asciilifeform: would rather not price the holes by auction, it will make , i suspect, untenable headache for inhabitants .
PeterL: is there any other way, besides checking $heathen-exchange? And that is just an auction with a few more participants
asciilifeform: PeterL: still open q.

2019-9-30